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Originally Posted by VAhuntr

We have tried to talk the "brass" into Tahoe's as well but our budget will not allow it. Too bad because I agree these are great vehicles.
Those and the occasional Suburban are the only thing that our Sheriff's Department buys these days. They are flooded with Homeland Security dollars, and these units cost our county $80K+ each with all the communications equipment. They are mostly driven by young deputies making about $10-$12 per hour who are waiting to be admitted to the academy so that they can get certified and go somewhere else.


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They don't pay that much for them. I know that for a fact. They go with the low bid automaker for government vehicles.

You and I would pay that much, but the government doesn't. You would be shocked at the price they pay. wink


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you need one of these with a 440 in it.


I had one of those. My first patrol car. 1974 Grand Fury Police Interceptor. 440CI, Humongous 4bbl carb, and itty, bitty drum brakes all the way around.

Top speed (clocked on radar by a State Trooper as I was going to a sniper call at a local high school) was 147mph.

If you floored it from the standing start, it would upshift to second at about 65mph, second to third around 95mph, then bury the speedometer needle in the dash.
There was so much unburned fuel in the system when you floored it, that there were two black smoke ropes coming from the exhaust pipes until you got above 95 when it started to burn most of the fuel being delivered. grin

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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
They don't pay that much for them. I know that for a fact. They go with the low bid automaker for government vehicles.

You and I would pay that much, but the government doesn't. You would be shocked at the price they pay. wink

My thinking is the vendors know who has grant money or other govbucks and raise up a little to get their share. I know that when our fire department got it they were not as concerned with cost as when it was all department funds.

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The explorers are easier to get in and out of, but they're still suck for comfort. The rattle like a tin can full of marbles after about 10K miles and don't have any more ground clearance than a C-Vic. There's just no perfect option.


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Why do the troopers need to go 100+ miles an hour. With all the tech now, can't they just get the camera feed from the drones and follow the perp at safe speeds and distance? Then call air strike bombs to take care of situation.

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Originally Posted by smarquez
My thinking is the vendors know who has grant money or other govbucks and raise up a little to get their share. I know that when our fire department got it they were not as concerned with cost as when it was all department funds.


Vendors for LE are a VERY competitive bunch. While they don't like to leave money on the table, low bid wins the day because most government entities (not volunteer FDs!) have to play buy the purchasing rules and even five bucks too high can lose a bid.

Our local VFD has the ability to raise funds independent of the county and the ability to spend it as they wish. When it comes time to spend money that is passed through the county through Fire District taxes, they have to play by the county rules for spending and that means low bid, three+ bids, and and increasingly tighter purchasing oversight.



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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
They don't pay that much for them. I know that for a fact. They go with the low bid automaker for government vehicles.

You and I would pay that much, but the government doesn't. You would be shocked at the price they pay. wink
The bids are announced at the county commission meetings at which the winning bids are approved.


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Originally Posted by mudhen
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They don't pay that much for them. I know that for a fact. They go with the low bid automaker for government vehicles.

You and I would pay that much, but the government doesn't. You would be shocked at the price they pay. wink
The bids are announced at the county commission meetings at which the winning bids are approved.


Y'all need some county commissioners with some brains.

The county bought me a brand new F-150 4x4 SuperCrew for my Wildlife Services Dept. there. It had decent options, but wasn't loaded. Cloth seats, elect. windows, etc...

Total cost: Under $13k.

From bidding out government vehicles before I know that the federal government puts out a request each year to the domestic automakers for considerations of low bids for government vehicles. These go directly to the manufacturer like Ford or GM. After they consider the bids from the auto makers, they award it to the lowest that meets the criteria. Once that is awarded, not only the feds can use it, but any government agency is allowed to purchase the vehicles at the same cost. States, counties, schools.... all qualify.

Might put a bug in the ears of your commissioners and perhaps have them call over to Otero County and find out how easy it is to save big bucks. The sheriff's dept. probably could have had 3 brand new vehicles for what they paid for that one. wink

It's your tax money.


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While they don't like to leave money on the table, low bid wins the day because most government entities (not volunteer FDs!) have to play buy the purchasing rules and even five bucks too high can lose a bid.


I dont know about cars, but not all government entities have to take the lowest bid. In fact, they can be forced to take the highest bid.

If a native Indian woman owns a company that bids on a government project, she can be as much as 15% higher than the highest bid and the gov. will be forced to take her bid. All because of Affirmative Action and other programs like it.

I'm not the expert on this. I quoting my brother, who is an expert on government contracts.


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Originally Posted by Oldman2003
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While they don't like to leave money on the table, low bid wins the day because most government entities (not volunteer FDs!) have to play buy the purchasing rules and even five bucks too high can lose a bid.


I dont know about cars, but not all government entities have to take the lowest bid. In fact, they can be forced to take the highest bid.

If a native Indian woman owns a company that bids on a government project, she can be as much as 15% higher than the highest bid and the gov. will be forced to take her bid. All because of Affirmative Action and other programs like it.

I'm not the expert on this. I quoting my brother, who is an expert on government contracts.


That is correct mostly. Affirmative action. Consideration is given to minorities and women business owners.

With vehicles though, even the dealer doesn't get paid anything but a "courtesy delivery fee".


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While they don't like to leave money on the table, low bid wins the day because most government entities (not volunteer FDs!) have to play buy the purchasing rules and even five bucks too high can lose a bid.


I dont know about cars, but not all government entities have to take the lowest bid. In fact, they can be forced to take the highest bid.

If a native Indian woman owns a company that bids on a government project, she can be as much as 15% higher than the highest bid and the gov. will be forced to take her bid. All because of Affirmative Action and other programs like it.

I'm not the expert on this. I quoting my brother, who is an expert on government contracts.


That is correct mostly. Affirmative action. Consideration is given to minorities and women business owners.

With vehicles though, even the dealer doesn't get paid anything but a "courtesy delivery fee".


that's how it was with bridgestone tire, we got a delivery fee, but were able to charge for mount, balance, disposal.


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