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After my earlier experiences with the conquest I couldn't resist the Terra offering for a new Ruger Hawkeye. Mounted, bore sighted, -then when trying to zero at 100 yds, I could barely adjust the elevation, in fact the turret seemed frozen. I was also having grouping issues as well. Got frustrated, thinking I had a bad scope, and took it back to the dealer. He defended the product, said I had just ran out of adjustment range. So I kept the scope, located what should have been factory mid point on both turrets and put on another "proven rifle"-a Weatherby HB-ST.

Long story short, the Weatherby repeatedly shot 1/2" groups with the Terra, and the adjustments were easily made to the turrets. The factory just failed to set the scope adjustments at the midrange. As for the Ruger, I put a "proven" Nikon scope on it and groups still suffered. Turns out the mag box was exerting stress on the action and groups were reflecting that issue. Once I fixed the mag box problem it starting grouping MOA.

I was more than happy just to leave the Terra on the Weatherby.

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Your post doesn't make sense. Why would the controls be stiff on one gun, and not the other? Why would it matter if the scope left the factory not being centered? You would move it to correct point of impact during zeroing at the range regardless.


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Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Your post doesn't make sense. Why would the controls be stiff on one gun, and not the other? Why would it matter if the scope left the factory not being centered? You would move it to correct point of impact during zeroing at the range regardless.


Same question.

I believe the Ruger had the scope in a bind.

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Exactly. Once in a while Ruger factory rings don't line scopes up with the barrel. It's not exactly epidemic, but I've seen it more than once or twice....


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Dogcatcher, mathman, muledeer,

You may be right.........

I had assumed the scope was centered at the mid point when I purchase it. I did not check to make sure before I mounted it on the Ruger. I bore sight at the range manually. When I returned the scope for the dealer to inspect it was still mounted on the Ruger. He never mentioned anything about rings binding the scope. I'm careful to provide spacing between turrets relative to rings and torque specs for rings. The dealer put the rifle in a vise for inspection and did not have issues with mounting.

I'm not saying your comments aren't valid, as this is the first Ruger in my collection,(the ring situation is unique) just that after boresighting and sighting in at 50 yds, I had little or no room for elev adjustment at 100. I started over with a different rifle, which the dealer may have suggested (I don't recall) and had no problems thereafter. I'm not criticizing the scope, I'd buy another. I have no problems with the Ruger either, it has been an educational experience. Thanks for your comments.

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I'll admit my description of the process may be confusing. This will be my last attempt and I apologize for taking so much space.

I had a new Ruger hawkeye and a new Terra scope. Without checking for turret midpoint(to be honest I never do) I mounted and manually bore-sighted scope in factory rings I installed per the Ruger manual, aligning rings with a 1" wood dowel. Once I began final zero at 100yd, I discovered I had great difficulty adjusting elev in the one direction I needed to go. Also had grouping issues.

Fast forward thru dealer interchange.....I took the scope off, found the midpoint on the Terra,(adjustments feel much easier at midpoint) put it on the weatherby, repeated the zero process...worked like a champ. Scope good, rifle good, now put it up.

Took the Nikon that came off the weatherby, set the turrets to midpoint, mounted in the Ruger rings. Had no problems adjusting turrets, but had group consistency issues. Concentrated on variables with the Ruger and after freeing up the stress caused by the mag box, it shot lights out. I'm very happy now.

In order to get the Terra replaced, the dealer said I had to work directly with Zeiss CS. I wasn't looking forward to doing that as I've never had to before with any product. I did call Zeiss CS to discuss, and they said try it again, if it failed to improve after remounting, send it back for their inspection, repair, or replace. They were very courteous on the phone and the whole thing worked out well.

I'm happy with the Zeiss Terra, and have recommended it to others. Again thanks for your comments, always learning something from this site.

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Zeiss CS is very good and they'd have taken care of you if needed.

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Interesting. I bought 2 Conquest 3-9's in the bargain frenzies as they were being phased out. To me and my son they were the most overhyped crap we'd ever tried. The critical eye relief and black ring were deal killers. Sold them both to 'fans' and actually made money for lunch.

Last week, a bud called to ask that I mount a Terra on his daughter's .243....slay me, but 4 of 5 of us preferred the eye box to the Conquest.


I'd think that anyone saying a Conquest ain't worth the money ain't very picky on optics....


Obviously thinking isn't your strong suit.


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I have 2 Conquests....a 3x9-40 and a 4.4x14-44 Rapid Z 800. Both have been excellent scopes. Not one single issue. The eye relief and clarity are noticibly better than the VX3 Leupolds I own.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Zeiss CS is very good and they'd have taken care of you if needed.

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Just called to find out status on my broken Conquest. They have had it a month already and they told me 12 weeks. F this, I am getting an SS to replace it. Done with this nonsense.

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