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Re: Shot group diagnosis? ready_on_the_right #9147737 09/02/14
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,324 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,324 Paradise,Alaska	Tough to top kitchen counter zero sanctity,after belly crawling from the living room...through all that shag carpet for a week. Laughing!................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

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Re: Shot group diagnosis? Big Stick #9147743 09/02/14
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 18,075 GA, USA ready_on_the_right Campfire Ranger
ready_on_the_right Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 18,075 GA, USA	God, Family, and Country. NRA Endowment Member

Re: Shot group diagnosis? ready_on_the_right #9147762 09/02/14
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ready_on_the_right Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 18,075 GA, USA	I wouldn't swear on a Bible, but I'm pretty sure in 33 yrs of shooting, started when 10, I've only had 2 centerfire rifles lose zero, and both were when the Tasco World Class 3-9's came unglued! I don't baby them, but careful not to go knocking them into things scope first and since the Tasco's have bought Leupold, Bausch and Lomb (sp?) and SWFA chicken scope. Mike God, Family, and Country. NRA Endowment Member

Re: Shot group diagnosis? ready_on_the_right #9147781 09/02/14
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Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,324 Paradise,Alaska	Do not go mocking 'worm's Shag Ghillie. Laughing!................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Shot group diagnosis? Big Stick #9148235 09/02/14
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battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,808 outside the burgh	10: Cold and kinda warm over 5 minutes or so. When it comes to BG, where the rifle puts them will not be the reason for success of failure. laissez les bons temps rouler

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Re: Shot group diagnosis? battue #9148354 09/02/14
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bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,009 Battle Born	battue. Pre 64's don't shoot that good Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: Shot group diagnosis? bsa1917hunter #9148374 09/02/14
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battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,808 outside the burgh	FWT to boot and a 1.5-5. Had to be luck. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: Shot group diagnosis? battue #9148399 09/02/14
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Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,324 Paradise,Alaska	Sir, Light barrels do NOT shoot!................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Shot group diagnosis? battue #9148406 09/02/14
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bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,009 Battle Born	Yep. I'm going to slap my 30-06 fwt into a swirly soon and see if it shoots as good as your 308. Damn, it might even look just like your 308 too. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: Shot group diagnosis? battue #9148418 09/02/14
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Hondo64d Campfire Tracker H Joined: May 2003 Posts: 5,792 The Big Country	Originally Posted by battue 10: Cold and kinda warm over 5 minutes or so. When it comes to BG, where the rifle puts them will not be the reason for success of failure. 1" grid? John If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

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Re: Shot group diagnosis? Hondo64d #9148423 09/02/14
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Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,324 Paradise,Alaska	Winchester "good"..................(grin) Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Shot group diagnosis? Hondo64d #9148435 09/02/14
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battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,808 outside the burgh	Yes. To both.... Last edited by battue; 09/02/14. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: Shot group diagnosis? battue #9148453 09/02/14
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bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,009 Battle Born	Originally Posted by battue FWT to boot and a 1.5-5. Had to be luck. Poor rifle. You should put some Leupold QR's on it since you keep changing scopes . Oh, wait it looks like it does have QR's . I think the first time I saw it, it had a 6x leupy, then a 3x, now a 1.5-5??? It's this one I'm presuming: Originally Posted by battue Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter Very nice collection Battue. I really like that pre 64 308 fwt in the mcswirly stock. Thank you. I have the original stocks that went with them and it now wears a different hat. The new Leupold 3x. Very nice rifle!!! Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: Shot group diagnosis? bsa1917hunter #9148502 09/02/14
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HawkI Campfire Ranger H Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 21,951	Never mix TSX's with CnC's....with a "burnt up" barrel....

Re: Shot group diagnosis? HawkI #9148507 09/02/14
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,324 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,324 Paradise,Alaska	It's ALL about the contour................(grin) Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Shot group diagnosis? bsa1917hunter #9148510 09/02/14
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battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,808 outside the burgh	That be it. Flipp'n scopes. Although this flipping is on another .308W Sometimes I even use it in the real world: Didn't heat this other Win .308W up as much. Even use it on occasion: I tell you, I'm wasting those barrels. I better start placing them in a saving plan�. Last edited by battue; 09/02/14. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: Shot group diagnosis? battue #9148549 09/02/14
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bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,009 Battle Born	Great pictures buddy. My swirly is similar to yours, but the pattern is different (pre 64 montecarlo). A good guy here wanted it to go to me and made me a deal I could not turn down. Hopefully I'll have it by early next week.. Your rifles are tack drivers. My old rifle only shoots like this...: Damn battue, I like those Leupold QR's. Blackdog1 was showing me a set on his pre 64 fwt '06 a while ago and they look like the catz azz. I may eventually end up going this route as well... Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: Shot group diagnosis? logdog #9153033 09/04/14
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 173 BriGuy Campfire Member
BriGuy Campfire Member Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 173	Originally Posted by logdog Barrel heat +1 That was the first thing I thought of after seeing the picture. One of the hardest thing to get a new shooter to do is exercise patience between shots and give the barrel time to cool. I struggle with this when my son (18 years-old) is at the trigger. Normally they just want to shoot. .243 win will heat up a barrel quickly if not given ample time to cool. Even the heavier barrels. Hot pipes do nothing good for groups. Doesn't do the throat any favor's either. Last edited by BriGuy; 09/04/14.

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