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With Hawking's discoveries, we know that things do and can escape "black holes". This stuff is called Hawking Radiation.
Because I cannot rule out the Big Bang "singularity" similarities with "black hole" singularities, I wonder if what the Big Bang emitted was this Hawking Radiation stuff...
Physicist do say that Hawking Radiation is unlike anything else.... When you start talking about black holes and their relationship to Universes (plural), you are opening up a whole new can of worms. In simplest terms, the Universe consists of three things, Matter, energy, and space/time. However, we know that E=MC^2, so matter is just a phase of energy. Therefore the entire universe is made up of two sides of an equation, E=Space/Time. Now where E is positive, and Space/time is it's negative counter part, we end up with a universe with net zero energy, which would be consistent with the laws of the conservation of energy. When we contemplate a black hole, it is a massive reservoir of negative energy (by convention, gravitational energy is negative), Now for hawking radiation to escape a black hole, the total energy of the system (mass is a for of positive energy) must approach zero, with a slightest of edges going to the positive energy. As the Hawking's radiation escape, some mass is lost, and with it some negative potential energy (lost gravity). This process continues all the way down to planck scale, so the blackhole never losses it's Event Horizon, nor reaches a point here E exceeds Gravity enough to cause the system to enter a re-inflationary stage. However if it did reach a re inflationary state, it could create some interesting possibilities. The density of a black hole warps time and space. So what happens when this containment is lost? Radiation begins to leave at the speed of light. As the mass of the blackhole shrinks space expands. As light moves through this rapidly expanding, unwarping, space, this light could be perceived as changing it's position at a rate faster then the cosmic speed limit. All that stuff crushed together at near infinite pressures, would it once again be reduces to form of primary particles? Primary particles, space and time expanding faster then the speed of light, could this be what the early universe looked like? Hmmmm, Einstein..
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cool! I'll have to look into it. Thanks for brining it up Hmmmm, Einstein.. with training wheels.. Alabama not ready for an Einstein just yet.
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This experiment showed that matter only exists as a result of observation. I still don't understand how observation creates matter, only that it does.
Not only does observation create matter, but it gives that matter a history and a backstory. Crazy! So, I'm running at top speed with my eyes closed. There is a large tree in my path. Since I have my eyes closed, I do not observe it so it doesn't really exist and I can keep running straight. If I open my eyes and observe it, it becomes matter and I run into it and badly damage myself. This gives credibility to those who can text while driving. If they don't observe the car ahead, it doesn't exist they can't hit it. Texting while driving is safe driving.
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Observing isn't equivalent to vision. Unfortunely, those electromagnetic forces are still going to apply, eyes closed or not.
And there is even more esoteric things out there, like whatever dark matter is, which gravity proves exists, but not what it is, and dark energy, which expansion speed of the universe suggests, based on current measurements.
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I didn't read this thread, just the first post. Maybe someone already posted this from Romans.
"God, who gives life to the dead and calls into being that which does not exist."
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I didn't read this thread, just the first post. I can tell. Maybe someone already posted this from Romans.
"God, who gives life to the dead and calls into being that which does not exist." Not posted. Until yours, all of the posts had actually been relevant to the topic. John
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It is only when some classical object such as the photon passing through a wine glass, water, or a sensor, that causes it to slow below the full speed of C that time actually passes for the photon, causing it to move from a timeless state, to a state of existing in time. So, can a photon actually slow below the full speed of light (in vacuo) or is it that the propagation through a media appears to be at less than C? Only through media is my understanding.
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speed of light in air, water, diamond, etc. is slower then in vacuum. Known as index of refraction and is why when you look at a fish in water, it's real location is different then what you see, or something in the water looks like it is bend at the surface.
It is the factor of how much light is slowed down. Also, particles, like an electron, can go faster then the speed of light in some medium, like water. Just can't go faster then speed of light in a vacuum.
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cool! I'll have to look into it. Thanks for brining it up Hmmmm, Einstein.. with training wheels.. Alabama not ready for an Einstein just yet. I never would have guessed...
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Only through media is my understanding. A little bit of a conundrum there. A photon hits glass, for some reason instantly slows down, then goes instantly back to full speed when leaving glass. Perhaps the photon gets absorbed by an electron in a glass molecule raising the electron to a higher energy state. Then a tiny bit later an identical photon is emitted by the electron when it falls back to a lower state. So propagating through the glass it seems like one photon slowing down and speeding up, no?
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cool! I'll have to look into it. Thanks for brining it up Hmmmm, Einstein.. with training wheels.. Alabama not ready for an Einstein just yet. You're right, we've moved on. Relativity is old. It doesn't work in the Quantum world. The quantum world does apply to the macro - world though http://www.popsci.com/science/artic...ap-in-the-scale-of-quantum-entanglement-The best that Einstein could do was call it spooky...
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