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It has started and some comments have already been made, so the ground work is in place.
Once this thing spreads (by Design) the Media and the Democrats will unleash a flurry of accusations blaming the Republicans, the NRA and of course Bush.
Obama and his refusal to limit the importation of this virus will all be forgotten and the American public will buy into the Main Stream Media lies and the Republicans will be blamed for the deaths of thousand of Americans.
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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number of ebola deaths to date: less than 2,500
number of flu deaths on an average year: 23,607 (can be as high as 48,000+ on a bad year)
but feel free to panic You numbers don't mean schit. Look at the TOTAL number of flu cases per yer, then figure the percent that die. Yeah, he conveniently didn't compare the fatality rate of those infected. I'll do the math. Assuming 1 in 6 Americans gets the flu in a given year, that would put the fatality rate for those infected with influenza around 0.05% vs. 50+% for Ebola. That would mean Ebola is over 1000 times more deadly than the flu.
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Appears part of the problem may be that Susan Rice has been integrally involved. Apparently Obama is throwing his non-political underlings under the bus (NYT article) quote:------------ Susan E. Rice, the national security adviser, has been leading the effort to prod Britain, Germany, France and other countries to do more to respond to the outbreak. One of Ms. Rice�s deputies, Lisa Monaco, who is responsible for homeland security and counterterrorism issues, has been coordinating the domestic response, which involves working with the C.D.C., state and local health authorities, and the Transportation Security Administration on issues like scanning of incoming passengers. ----------------- My comment: Even while the Administration has enlisted the NYT to shift blame to levels below Obama, one of Obama's favorites, Susan Rice, is mentioned, and it doesn't take a genius to see that much of the blame for the lackluster response has to fall on her and her deputies.
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number of ebola deaths to date: less than 2,500
number of flu deaths on an average year: 23,607 (can be as high as 48,000+ on a bad year)
but feel free to panic You numbers don't mean schit. Look at the TOTAL number of flu cases per yer, then figure the percent that die. Yeah, he conveniently didn't compare the fatality rate of those infected. I'll do the math. Assuming 1 in 6 Americans gets the flu in a given year, that would put the fatality rate for those infected with influenza around 0.05% vs. 50+% for Ebola. That would mean Ebola is over 1000 times more deadly than the flu. spin it anyway you wish, flu has killed more people every year than ebola by a long shot. if you want an eye opener, look up malaria deaths. but you guys gotta dig for something to panic about so carry on...
Guns don't kill people, drivers with cell phones kill people.
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Well genius, there aint a [bleep] Ebola patient on the planet that doesn't wish they had the flu.
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Guns don't kill people, drivers with cell phones kill people.
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Interesting What if Lots of People Have Ebola-Proof Blood? �There is limited evidence from past outbreaks that suggests there probably are quite a few people who get exposed, who get infected, without ever developing symptoms and without ever developing illness but they develop immunity,� said Lauren Ancel Meyers, a professor in the Department of Integrative Biology at The University of Texas at Austin. The best evidence of this happening with Ebola was a study done during a 1996 outbreak in Gabon, when researchers monitored 24 contacts of known Ebola patients who never became sick. Eleven of them had antibodies to Ebola.
�If this turns out to be true, there is widespread silent Ebola infection that is immunizing,� Meyers said. �We should really investigate it further.�
It�s not unheard of. Immunologists know that people can get exposed to a virus and never become ill. One study showed that people in Peru appeared to have survived rabies � a virus believed to be virtually 100 percent fatal. One in 10 people tested had antibodies to rabies but many couldn�t recall having gotten sick. �Ultimately, knowing whether a large segment of the population in the afflicted regions are immune to Ebola could save lives,� said Steve Bellan, who worked with Meyers on the letter published in the Lancet medical Journal. �If we can reliably identify who they are, they could become people who help with disease-control tasks, and that would prevent exposing others who aren't immune."
Or their blood could be used to treat the ill, if that approach turns out to in fact help patients survive.
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spin it anyway you wish, flu has killed more people every year than ebola by a long shot. if you want an eye opener, look up malaria deaths. but you guys gotta dig for something to panic about so carry on...
Yeah, up til now... http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/world/africa/ebola-outbreak/index.html I agree that the flu is (currently) a bigger health threat than the threat of ebola getting out of hand here, but can you give me a valid reason why we should have to deal with ebola at all in the U.S.? Allowing people to freely travel to & from the hot zones & then throughout the U.S. is just begging for trouble.
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I see no reason for it here, but in reality it would get here one way or another eventually.
the problem I see is a bunch of people here want the idiot-in-charge to do this and do that, but he is, after all, an idiot and we'll have to work around him.
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There's no way in hell these two nurses got this particular strain of Ebola that is only supposed to be capable of being transmitted by bodily fluids. I'm not sure why you'd think that, when they both handled his bodily fluids They just weren't careful enough removing their PPE
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One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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