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Redneck's post mirrors my views exactly they all talk a good game but when it actually comes down to doing anything meaningful, they're missing in action. My feeling is, if they actually did what we need them to do we'd all be complaining to one degree or the other. It's going to have to hurt to turn this mess around.


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Originally Posted by Redneck
All hot air... NONE of it will be done..
Yep...not to mention that if THAT is the top priorities for the Republican party, it just reinforces why I'm an independent.

We need to stabilize our economy
We need to reform the tax code
We need to regulate investment banks so we don't have another collapse
We need to reign in US intelligence and get our right to privacy back (Start by repealing the Patriot Act)
We need to address the declining middle class (because our entire economy is based on middle class spend)


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Originally Posted by Snake River Marksman
It's going to have to hurt to turn this mess around.


I don't think so. There's so much ridiculous spending, simple cuts could save billions on top of billions.


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Originally Posted by Snake River Marksman
Redneck's post mirrors my views exactly they all talk a good game but when it actually comes down to doing anything meaningful, they're missing in action. My feeling is, if they actually did what we need them to do we'd all be complaining to one degree or the other. It's going to have to hurt to turn this mess around.



Tell me where Ted Cruz has been missing in action? In the Harry Reid Senate or in the 2014 election campaign to take the Senate away from Reid?

I agree we need more, but I will support every fighter we have.




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Yes there's plenty of pork in the budget, but that pork does support jobs, and jobs allow spending down the road. There'll be a ripple effect no matter where the cuts are made. Just because it's going to hurt, doesn't mean they shouldn't do it. And just because it's a good hurt, doesn't mean we can't or won't complain about it.


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Start with all the DOD items that they say they don't need and don't want and listen to all the pigs squeal. Try to close a base or kill a sub building project.


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According to Carson, they might not even be elections




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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Start with all the DOD items that they say they don't need and don't want and listen to all the pigs squeal. Try to close a base or kill a sub building project.



obama's on it


http://www.rightwingnews.com/top-news/bombshell-high-ranking-army-says-army-death-spiral-obama/



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Start with all the DOD items that they say they don't need and don't want and listen to all the pigs squeal. Try to close a base or kill a sub building project.



obama's on it


http://www.rightwingnews.com/top-news/bombshell-high-ranking-army-says-army-death-spiral-obama/




Obama wants to cut everything BUT the PORK.


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Carson lays out a scenario that, while it seems unlikely, it is possible. My father and his hunting partner were talking about the imminent collapse of the government way back in 1969. They just couldn't see how we could keep going as we were. Yet, here we are 40+ years later still bumping along. Ther've been ups and downs, and some adaptations have happened to keep things going. It seems likely, to me, that that is the course we'll continue to take. However, the Chinese have a say in what becomes of our country from now on. We owe them too much money. If they call the debt, and we can't pay it, economic collapse appears to be the result. Should that happen, I see chaos on an unprecedented scale in this country and huge numbers of people BEGGING for the government to step in and make it all good again. The remnants of the constitution will go fluttering on the wind.

All those guys standing around on a street corner proclaiming the end is coming aren't wrong, so long as they don't give a specific date.


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Originally Posted by Redneck
All hot air... NONE of it will be done..


pretty much it, right there. Cruz can say what he wants, and pander to the few conservatives left, but he knows in his heart of hearts, that not a single item he favors has any legs.


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Originally Posted by Snake River Marksman
Yes there's plenty of pork in the budget, but that pork does support jobs, and jobs allow spending down the road. There'll be a ripple effect no matter where the cuts are made. Just because it's going to hurt, doesn't mean they shouldn't do it. And just because it's a good hurt, doesn't mean we can't or won't complain about it.


a huge chunk of the pork goes straight into obama supporters pockets. Solyndra for example. $500 million dollars that just disappear.


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It's easy to dismiss individual programs that benefit non-citizens until they're put together and this picture emerges. Someone did a lot of research to put together all of this data. Often these programs are buried within other programs making them difficult to find.

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WHY is the USA BANKRUPT? Read this:



We have been hammered with the propaganda that it was the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us.

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the readers gets sick of reading them. I also have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.


1.

$11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.

Verify at:

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$22 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

Verify at:

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML
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3.

$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at:

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML <http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML>






4.

$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt...0.HTML
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5.

$17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as Anchor babies.

Verify at:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

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6.

$3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at:
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7.

30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
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8.

$90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.

Verify at:

http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.HTML
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9.

$200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are

caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI
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13.

In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.
Verify at:

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14.
The dark side of Illegal Immigration:

Nearly One million sex crimes committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .
Verify at:

http:// www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

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THE TOTAL COST IS A WHOPPING $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME, HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.

Are we THAT Stupid?

YES, FOR ALLOWING THOSE IN THE U.S.. CONGRESS TO GET AWAY WITH DOING THIS YEAR AFTER YEAR!!!!!




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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
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All hot air... NONE of it will be done..


pretty much it, right there. Cruz can say what he wants, and pander to the few conservatives left, but he knows in his heart of hearts, that not a single item he favors has any legs.



Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) is pretty much on top of this Cruz thing with you guys.

Criticized Cruz for his call for greater leadership from the President, saying her �good friend� from Texas �just needs to read a little more.�

�Now, the president, let me say to my good friend, the senator from Texas, just needs to read a little more,� she said. �The president was front and center issuing immediate help and support to the infected areas in Liberia and Senegal, Sierra Leone and Guinea and at one time Nigeria, or course Senegal and Nigeria are Ebola-free. But he was on top of it from the perspective of stopping it at its source, because he desires to have our citizens protected, he was not happy, and none of were happy.�


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Ltppowell: Tragically Senator Cruz has been "demonized" by the demonrats and the demonrat sycophant (flatterer and parasite) liberal press!
I would vote for him.
My top two priorities for the 2,015 Congress would be to impeach hussein obama and impeach earache holder!
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Senator Cruz is being "demonized" by the same �Conservatives� that bitch about nobody standing up to the Obama Agenda.

His long DO list is a blueprint for the new Republican Senate. Screw the Obama veto.
Every veto of what the people voted for in 2014 will backfire on the Democrats in 2016.


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Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Ltppowell: Tragically Senator Cruz has been "demonized" by the demonrats and the demonrat sycophant (flatterer and parasite) liberal press!
I would vote for him.
My top two priorities for the 2,015 Congress would be to impeach hussein obama and impeach earache holder!
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You and Bow are correct. Cruz is only popular with real conservatives, and there aren't many of them in Office, R or D. Hell, it's pretty obvious that there aren't many here at the 'Fire either, though they like to claim it.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Ltppowell: Tragically Senator Cruz has been "demonized" by the demonrats and the demonrat sycophant (flatterer and parasite) liberal press!
I would vote for him.
My top two priorities for the 2,015 Congress would be to impeach hussein obama and impeach earache holder!
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You and Bow are correct. Cruz is only popular with real conservatives, and there aren't many of them in Office, R or D. Hell, it's pretty obvious that there aren't many here at the 'Fire either, though they like to claim it.


So sad and so very true.

Hope Cruz can gain more traction, but the rovites will fight him with the heat of a thousand suns. It will be a bloodbath.


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