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I am with Redneck.

"Kahr Arms used to be owned by the son of Rev. Moon. Ya know, like the Moonies, that you used to see at the Airports wearing white sheets. Rev. Moon couldn't own the Company because he was a convicted Felon.

Don't know if they still own the company or not."

Don't know about the accuracy of the rest of your statement; But it was the Hari Krishna's (sp?) that used to hang out in airports.

I've read that his father was the 'reverend' Moon, but that he has distanced himself from his father's 'religion'. I say read as I have better things to do than look into such non sense... it'd be a full time job considering the state of the world.

Back to guns... I've got a couple of Kahr's and like them, no issues, light weight, smooth trigger and accurate (way beyond what I expect from a tiny pistol!).

I'm kind of with you on the warranty... why I am so impressed with Ruger these day's. But, try calling Colt and telling them the older 1911 that you bought used is having problems... will they send you a call tag for shipping and repair it for free! Then try it with S&W, etc. Good luck!

Jerry

Wikipedia lists "the Rev" as having 16 children. I am pretty sure a conservative christian will raise a few gun lovers out of that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Myung_Moon

Wiki on Kahr arms:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahr_Arms

I haven't needed to use any firearm warranty to date, and don't know what I'd do if I had reliability/safety issue like the one mentioned in the OP... but like in your example, I wouldn't be inclined to go to the manufacturer first.

Couple reasons for that... first, I'm not going to hold a gunmaker responsible outside of the terms of the warranty. That's just silly. Second, I like to support my local gunsmith, so I'll have him look at it first before I talk to the manufacturer. If my local smith can't fix it, and he says it looks like a defect in manufacture, I'll get on the phone to the manufacturer. But so far I've had few gun problems that my local smith couldn't set to rights in short order.

I've had a number of Kahr pistols since they came out with the original K9 back in the 90's, and all have performed in stellar fashion. I'd go so far as to say that Kahr pistols are as reliable as any other gun out there. I'm down to just one Kahr right now, but am looking at getting a couple more in the near future and am confident they'll work as well as the ones I've had in the past.

I've only owned one Kahr, a CW-9. From that experience, I'd bet I've "sold" several Kahr CW-9s for a local dealer just by recommending the gun and dealer to friends and family. It's the 2nd most accurate 9mm pistol I've fired and I've fired a few in the last 40 years. Nary a stutter. Feeds everything from semi-wadcutters to hollow point defensive ammo.

But, like everything else, I suppose I could break it.

For what they cost, they should perform better than their reputation belies.

My experience with them involves over half a dozen pistols and the reliability was totally "hit or miss". I can't complain about their CS though, because they paid to have guns shipped back to them seven (7) times! One even had to have a new frame and it still wasn't 100%.

That's a shame too because several of their pistols - like the PM9 and CW45 - fill a niche in the market like no other gun out there IMO.

They're more than accurate enough for such a small platform and the triggers are unbelievably smooth. I was ringing steel with a buddy's CW45 last week at 90 yards until it got a bit boring.

If you have a good one, hold on to it. If you have one with issues, send it back as many times as they'll pay for it and/or try another one.

The PM9 I have now was bought slightly used for exactly half of msrp and it shoots like a house on fire. For me, that's the way to test the waters without getting in too deep money wise.

Like you, I guess I have been lucky. I have 2 CW9's and a P-380 and all three have run without a hitch. I cant believe how good the P-380 shoots.

Problem is pretty much every manufacturer stands behind their product as long as it wasn't something the owner did to cause the malfunction, which I did not. Good thing is I'm pretty handy with firearms so I will fix this myself. You don't know me so I'll give you a pass on the selling a dangerous firearm thing. I would never do such a thing and the many who know me on here know that. Its just funny when I go to the Kahr forum and everyone is preaching that Kahr will stand behind their guns no matter what. Purpose of this post was to point out that they will not. There are much better guns out there and better companies building them. Up to you guys to make your own decisions. I know mine has been made!

I guess what angers me the most is this gun will kill someone if they werent aware of the situation. This particular gun is less than 2 years old but on its second owner. I understand its stated but still. I bought a 500 smith once, I was the 4th owner. The cylinder locked up and the crane was damaged. I sent the gun back and had it back in a week with everything replaced for free. I bought a kimber super match used and it broke the first time it went to the range. Kimber took the gun back and fixed it for free. I have more examples of this and this is the first time that a gun company treated me the way they did with absolutely no care for the potential danger this gun has.

My Kahr experience in a short version is cw 45 POS lots of problems , later a cw 40 gun was fully functional and no problems shoot plenty good. I just cant deal with their triggers.

That's bullchit Gunchamp! kahr should have made it right, I dont happen to own a car and now I never will...........Hb

My Kahrs look like jewelry compared to my Kel-Tecs, but the ugly Kel-tecs are more reliable.

I've bought and sold a lot of used guns and I haven't had any problems that stick out in my mind.

I've owned three Kahrs, still own two, and am the original owner of one of them. Only had one dealing with Kahr customer service and it was handled perfectly.

When you say in your post that you "bought a 500 smith once, I was the 4th owner. The cylinder locked up and the crane was damaged. I sent the gun back and had it back in a week with everything replaced for free"......you had to know it was broken when you bought it. Then you say you have more examples of this.

Are you buying these used guns, knowing that they have a problem...then hoping to have the company warranty sort them out? Or are you paying full price for a gun that is supposed to be working fine and you are getting ripped off by some pos seller?

If this is the latter, why not take your anger out on the guy that sold that sold you these lemons?