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no, whle the pneumothorax collapse of the lung is an aid to a swifter kill on the animal, it's not fast enough to help you in a gun fight. Anyone can hold their breath for 30 seconds, and anyone can shoot you 4x per second. The blood trail, so useful to us for finding the dead critter, is of no advantage in a defensive fight
If, instead of 12" of penetration (ie, exit wound) and a transferred 300 ft lbs of power to the man, I could get 2 wound tracks (bullet split lengthwise, segments tumble) 600 ft lbs of power and have the bullet stop in the man, same load, same recoil, but could "only" get 6" of penetration, I"d take that performance in a heartbeat over the 100% greater penetration. Cause my way is easily proven to offer a much greater likelihood of the required instant stop
Last edited by squesh; 10/26/14.
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What if the bad guy is hiding behind a car door?
Your thinking is one dimensional, and that's why it's flawed.
Last edited by antelope_sniper; 10/26/14.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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no, whle the pneumothorax collapse of the lung is an aid to a swifter kill on the animal, it's not fast enough to help you in a gun fight. Anyone can hold their breath for 30 seconds, and anyone can shoot you 4x per second. The blood trail, so useful to us for finding the dead critter, is of no advantage in a defensive fight
If, instead of 12" of penetration (ie, exit wound) and a transferred 300 ft lbs of power to the man, I could get 2 wound tracks (bullet split lengthwise, segments tumble) 600 ft lbs of power and have the bullet stop in the man, same load, same recoil, but could "only" get 6" of penetration, I"d take that performance in a heartbeat over the 100% greater penetration. Cause my way is easily proven to offer a much greater likelihood of the required instant stop 
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You need to quit listening to those little voices in your head...
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Nope, I'd never accept anything that doesn't have the ability to blow through.
It might not, but I don't want 6 inches of penetration to be a door, and then a coat etc... and possibly, very possibly, never make it to the vitals.
A perfect world this is not.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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As some disturbed individuals are wearing body armor these days, what will you do.
How many individuals hold their breath for 30 seconds after being shot.
Your flawed thinking could get you killed...
"Sorry don't get it done, Dude"
John Wayne 1959
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Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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OP is also assuming a chest hit. What if your bullet impacts in the upper thigh or through the hips? In those instances I would want to be breaking bones, taking my opponents mobility from him.
In addition, an "instant stop" is usually the result of a debilitating hit to the central nervous system. This means a bullet that will reliably break the spine.
I get the feeling the OP hasn't done very much hunting....or at least he hasn't killed much game.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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That advice is discriminatory sir!!! We feed unwed mothers, their babys daddy & illegals...might as well feed trolls too...
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If you want one shot stopping power then shoot them in the head or spinal cord or maybe use 00 Buck at close range.
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Gimme a write up on this, curious about your thoughts, if any. ![[Linked Image]](http://www.deniskitchen.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/B_AC.fosdick1bg.jpg)
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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Per OP; is this what DIYGuy has been reincarnated to?
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