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Why do you care you live in Oregon.

You young pups keep crapping on us old guys and you guys will lose your hunting rights. Us old guys have no problems with voting your hunting rights away. We old guys are one cranking bunch of people. Don't piss us off.

You don't even hunt. STFU.

You young pups keep crapping on us old guys and you guys will lose your hunting rights. Us old guys have no problems with voting your hunting rights away. We old guys are one cranking bunch of people. Don't piss us off. [/quote]

*And there you have it. Take note campfire.

That's a valid issue.

Both have foot trails. It's a pity you've never seen one. Try and go outside some time.

Ditto. The above is the truth like it or not.

You want cheese with that?

States management for wildlife fall under the 10th amendment, they are required to follow the public trust doctrine. Which has been upheld by the supreme court from 1842 to Horner in 2000. Most western states also stay within the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation.

Teddy is rolling in his grave with what the Federal land management has turned into.

Kent

DD, if you don't care about what CO does then shut the hell up about what goes down here. And as to different culture between the two states, sorry your wrong. Ratio of red and blue are different granted, but the make up of us natives is the same. I have spent some time up your way, my oh my you all have an awakening coming.

I think Teddy isn't alone.

But it makes grin thinking what he would do to these anti-hunting/shooting terrorist groups if he were around today. I wish he'd had better foresight, and had protections written in.

The intent of a law isn't always the letter of the law.

I'm afraid there is no protection against liberal agenda... even in the constitution, they just ignore it.

The alternative is we never had public trust hunting, recreating, shooting. There wouldn't be this website or us even discussing it.

I'm all for states' management of public lands along with wildlife under the same public trust doctrine and guidelines.

Kent

Some of the Western states, and their liberal populace scare the hell out of me when considering that option as well.

A few years ago i was up in the coconino national forest hunting, during a blizzard. And I sat that with my approved map, shooting the roads that i was NOW allowed to go on, vs. the roads i HAD been allowed to go on since a child, trying to figure out what to do, as they had been removing the old F.R. signs, and renumbering.
And, lo and behold, i see a jeep out on a joyride in the snow going hither and thither, no reguard for approved road or not, full of forest service employees having a good joy ride.
The king does not want you to mess with his lands or his animals.
Supposedly one of the reasons to ban certain roads is not enough money, and they then could maintain existing open access roads.
right. I was on one of them a couple of weeks ago, a road that dates back to the 50's for me, and my poor ol butt is still suffering from all that non improved maintainence. You people that live in other areas of the country just do not or will not ever understand the bitterness that comes from living in a rural area all your life and having some butthead with a degree from yale trying to tell you what to do.

The "USFS Transportation Plan" in the Coronado NF is a bloody DISGRACE, with signs appearing, than disappearing, gates locked apparently on a whim,...re-opened a week later...

All of this is taking place with little or no input or dialogue from or with the 'recreational users', and is to often characterized by a VERY high handed and arrogant attitude.

I don't even want to START on the grazing lease 'Management" and the fire hazard issues relating thereto.

GTC