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Originally Posted by 4ager
Sure as Hell helped Winchester/FN, and will help Beretta. I don't think you really want to play this game, unionista.
Play what game? Beretta is moving to get out of antigun Maryland.
PS- What's a "unionista"? If it's supposed to be a insult or you're trying to be cute, you failed on both counts.

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Originally Posted by 4ager
Sure as Hell helped Winchester/FN, and will help Beretta. I don't think you really want to play this game, unionista.
Play what game? Beretta is moving to get out of antigun Maryland.
PS- What's a "unionista"? If it's supposed to be a insult or you're trying to be cute, you failed on both counts.


I got the point of his insult, easily. Your posts make you look like a pro union socialist. Unionista is a slang term to describe folks who are Union shills. Your posts look and sound as if you fit the bill or description.


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A casual glance at Colt's situation shows the problem is not the product, the location, the union, or even the day-to-day management or employees. The problem is the financial management, which in a better world would be stated as "criminal financial management".

Colt execs have been taking millions of dollars in loans and distributing most of the cash to themselves. Colt gets saddled with the debt, eventually forced to take additional loans, and the line-our-pockets scheme by the execs is repeated.

Colt needs to fold if only to be purchased by someone or some entity with a shred of integrity.


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Originally Posted by JOG
...Colt needs to fold if only to be purchased by someone or some entity with a shred of integrity.

�.does anyone know the straight scoop on what happened to USFA�..they took over the Blue Dome portion of the original Colt factory and all of the original equipment IIRC and added a bunch of CNC enhancements----they made the absolute finest SAA in production and had started to branch out into 1911's. For some reason the owner wanted to make .22 zip guns or something. He had been an Olympic Shooter IIRC and seemed like a good business man----almost like the place is cursed or something.


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I got the point of his insult, easily. Your posts make you look like a pro union socialist. Unionista is a slang term to describe folks who are Union shills. Your posts look and sound as if you fit the bill or description.
Of course, you'd never blame management, they're just like you, stealing peoples money. Why don't you go find a quiet corner and GFY.

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Originally Posted by JOG
A casual glance at Colt's situation shows the problem is not the product, the location, the union, or even the day-to-day management or employees. The problem is the financial management, which in a better world would be stated as "criminal financial management".

Colt execs have been taking millions of dollars in loans and distributing most of the cash to themselves. Colt gets saddled with the debt, eventually forced to take additional loans, and the line-our-pockets scheme by the execs is repeated.

Colt needs to fold if only to be purchased by someone or some entity with a shred of integrity.


This is the point that escapes every anti-union poster I see here and elsewhere. It's as if they think that management always has the right answers and management's interests are only with the benefit of the company.

Regardless of what else is going on, the fault for failure always rests with management. A poorly managed company should be allowed to fail.


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Originally Posted by viking
If unions are not a huge part of the problem, why are other company's moving or wanting to move to right to work states.

A friend works for the RR, he said if the fridge don't work, the conductor/engineer area is dirty, or they don't have a locker they get to bill extra, like 20-50 bucks a day. Now I don't recall the exact amount but it was ridiculous.


Asking why management does something as a rhetorical response indicates an assumption that management always makes the right decisions for the company good. That would be a pretty ignorant assumption.

As for your RR friend....Those penalties are in place to encourage management to treat employees like humans. RR crews are essentially held captive for extended periods in remote locations on trains and need a way to keep food safe to eat. Management has historically refused to maintain equipment for them to do so. The easy way to avoid penalty payments (other than just refusing to pay and stonewalling) is to have the equipment available and working. If you haven't worked in the industry, I doubt you'd understand. The RR industry is a prime example of why we have unions.


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