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There was a very well done history and analysis on the 71 by Bert Hartman in the Fall 2013 Winchester Collector Magazine. There were only two .33 caliber and one .45-70 verified among the 600 guns surveyed. Extrapolated data reflecting total production estimated that less than 4.5% of Model 71s were chambered in either .33(66% of the remaining 4.5%) or .45-70 (33%" ").

On a side note there was also an article in The Collector magazine verifying that Winchester made an attempt at chambering the 1894 in 22 High Power and apparently there were a couple made. I don't remember reading what they planned on using for a bullet in the tube magazine. Does anyone else here get that magazine by chance? It's worth the membership dues if you are interested in Winchester at all.

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Nice going Doug! I rembering talking about what guns we used to hunt deer with and you talked about the 33win. md 71! been hunting with my beater "T" in 300sav. no luck yet be heading out again shortly!


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Recently got some 33 Winchester cartridges in a deal. Now I have an excuse to look for a 71 in 33 cal. Think I would rather have the 45-70 though. Already have some of that ammo to. grin Unlikely that my spouse would buy that kind of reasoning. Well could always use but honey its a wise investment. whistle GW


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This is a very enjoyable thread. I can't picture myself hunting with a rifle as rare as M71 in .33 but I am aware many of you here can crazy I think most agree that among vintage rifle collectors, Savage collectors hunt with their rifles more than other group. On the topic of the .33, a very rare one to keep your eyes open for is the Winchester M1886 saddle ring carbine variation. You will find a heck of a lot more .50 caliber SRC's vs. .33.

By the way, let's not forget that Winchester was not the only company that made rifles in .33:

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Nice Marlins. I was just thinking about that.

Speaking of carbines; there was a group of five or six 1886 .33 rifles in my neighborhood back when Dad was a kid. I got a chance to look at one of those rifles a few years ago. It was a standard 33 WCF rifle configuration, all factory original, but it had been made with a SRC receiver. I imagine SRC 1886 sales were slow late in production and they used those up? Unfortunately there was just a big hole in the receiver were the saddle ring would have been. The owner said his father had taken the stud out and made an enlarged hole in the receiver to hold the bracket that held the flashlight.


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Supposedly Winchester made less then 10 model 71's in .33 caliber, and less in the 45-70,and if i remember right 1 or 2 in 45-90. 1 of the .33's in Berts survey was Fug's. grin Boltman nice Marlins!! I only have 1 Marlin 1895 left in .33 cal one went down the road.I still got 4 or 5 1886 Winchesters in .33 hanging around.

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Originally Posted by BradD
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Nice Marlins. I was just thinking about that.

Speaking of carbines; there was a group of five or six 1886 .33 rifles in my neighborhood back when Dad was a kid. I got a chance to look at one of those rifles a few years ago. It was a standard 33 WCF rifle configuration, all factory original, but it had been made with a SRC receiver. I imagine SRC 1886 sales were slow late in production and they used those up? Unfortunately there was just a big hole in the receiver were the saddle ring would have been. The owner said his father had taken the stud out and made an enlarged hole in the receiver to hold the bracket that held the flashlight.



Brad - If in fact the 1886 .33 was original, it could have been a parts clean-up gun. Another possibility is it was shipped as a SRC and later sent back and the configuration changed. Also, a rifle could be special ordered with a, "sling ring." By the way, I have seen one or two .33's in the configuration you described. Might have been the same gun.

Don - I did have the vague recollection of one M71 in .45/90. Wow - that would be one to have!

In bringing this back to Savages, here is one that is suggested to be, "special order":

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=453509957

I seriously doubt anyone will be upset over posting this particular live auction. It's already been around at least once. Actually, this one might not be a bad woods hunter. Except for the, "special order aspect" it is a pretty decent first model EG wink

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The special order must have been for savage to attach the front sight with screws to a cut barrel !!!! crazy crazy

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We call that a "Y-Buck" in PA.


Or a "fork horn".


Also called a "Fork Horn" here in Michigan


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The 45-90 is a new thought to me, as long as we are off topic I have thought about putting together a siamese mauser in 33wcf and still may if the right action appears.


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Originally Posted by Loggah
The special order must have been for savage to attach the front sight with screws to a cut barrel !!!! crazy crazy


I got to thinking about Winchester M1892's special order short carbines I have seen over the years. I can think of legitimate carbines in the following lengths: 12, 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18 inch barrels. I have also seen M1892 rifles in 14, 15, 16 and 18 inch lengths. Has anyone seen a factory Savage in any of those lengths? There's quite a few short Winchester M1894 carbines and rifles out there too. In Marlin, there were short versions of the M1895 and M1894 that I can think of. I know a Marlin Collector in New Zealand who has a .45/90 with a 15 inch barrel. It would seem no one wanted a short Savage confused



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So it was built on an 86 frame? l


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Chris - it was a Marlin M1895 made by the factory with a 15 inch barrel. Marlin made quite a few 1895's with a 15 inch barrel ("quite a few" speaking relatively here - that is compared to for example how many .45/70's and .45/90 Wincheser chambered in the M71).





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Originally Posted by boltman
This is a very enjoyable thread. I can't picture myself hunting with a rifle as rare as M71 in .33 but I am aware many of you here can crazy I think most agree that among vintage rifle collectors, Savage collectors hunt with their rifles more than other group. On the topic of the .33, a very rare one to keep your eyes open for is the Winchester M1886 saddle ring carbine variation. You will find a heck of a lot more .50 caliber SRC's vs. .33.

By the way, let's not forget that Winchester was not the only company that made rifles in .33:

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