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A Toyota competing with a Nissan, and GM's?

That ain't gonna be much of a competition.



Travis

Nissans will run with Toys all phuggin day, year after year after year........

Junk compared to a Toyota.




Travis

I'll do my best to remember that they're junk the next time I hop in this 2000 model with 220K miles on it.

The Nissans are good trucks but they are not as durable as the Toyota, under hard use. One of the companies I work for bought a dozen of the Nissans to train troops in off-road driving. They had a LOT of problems, the front diffs grenading, for starters.

I'm sure I'd get great service from a Nissan because I baby my vehicles but Toyotas are tops. Also, go to a parts store and compare prices of parts for a 10yo Toyota and a Nissan.

Are Robots Behind Perceived Drop in Toyota Tacoma Build Quality?

If you visit any Toyota Tacoma forum, there is usually at least one thread discussing the build quality of the current generation versus previous models. For many, the location of where the pickup truck is built remains a point of discussion (some wish it was still built in California, others want it to go back to Japan). However, what if robots are to blame?

According to Automotive News, Toyota says it is changing its production methods. Instead of adding more robots � the industry trend � Toyota is adding more humans. The idea is humans are better at spotting issues and improving the production process.

During the massive growth of Toyota around the turn of the century, production moved away from people in favor of robots. These robots certainly allowed Toyota to increase production; however, there may have also been a greater cost. Critics of Toyota, and even Toyota's current President Aiko Toyoda, point to the growth and production changes as the underlying problem behind the unintended acceleration issue and how solutions and information were disseminated.

Many Tacoma forums, like TacomaWorld.com, have noted a drop in quality in the second-generation pickup as a result of the decision to change production locations several years ago. The truck was first built in Fremont, Calif., before being moved to San Antonio, Texas. Some say the trucks built in California had fewer issues than those built in San Antonio. The reality is more likely that those issues have little to do with location, but rather more to do with timing.

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So Toyota owners maintain a unified front when talking to others, but the truth comes out when they speak among themselves about their vehicle problems.

They're good trucks. They're just not as good as a Toyota.



Travis

Yep, everybody knows that a Tacoma sucks balls compared to an S10:)

Do you really need to compare a Tacoma to a truck that hasn't been made for over 20 years to prove your point? Hilarious.

And opinions are like what?
Just ask 4321 from above, he is one

We are all entitled to our opinions.

Especially during this holiday season.



God bless,
Travis

I would need your definition of "hard use" as this one was purchased for a 16 YO outdoors boy[now man] and bear hunts in some pretty rough terrain here in the mountains from August[chase season] through January and is also a daily driver for a 60 mile roundtrip commute to work. During that same time no less than four 4-wheelers have been totally destroyed[not wrecked just wore out/unuseable] by the same person to frame a picture of how he isn't rough on things with wheels and engines. No major repairs on the one pictured.

And God Bless you too, Clark.

You can call me Sparky.




Clark

I would need your definition of "hard use" [/quote]

Think, "25yo Marine, driving it like he ain't got a dime in it", on an off-road driving course.

Interestingly, significant time has to be spent teaching a major portion of today's troops to drive a manual transmission, as that is all they will see overseas.

I will certainly agree that a Toyota is one heck of a well made, engineered and reliable vehicle. I have 174,000+ on a Tacoma and it runs like new. So far it isn't any better than my previous three F-150s. I put 200,000+ on all three F-150s with only one breakdown. My first one lost the alternator with 150,000+ on it and luckily I was less than a mile from home. My miles are easy, highway miles. I drive about 52,000 per year with a sales job. The company that I work for is going to start giving us an allowance to purchase our vehicles, so I will be paying close attention to the reliability ratings in the near future. All the new engines in the 2015 models make me a little nervous.

GM.

Over 8.4 million vehicles on a recall.

Just saying...

You know - Happy WIFE - Happy LIFE !

Cheers RJ

Just got my airbags replaced by Toyota last week. It only took three trips to the dealer. They also informed me my intake manifold gasket is leaking which prompted me to find the TSB on the web. Their engineers make mistakes too.