|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 59,128
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 59,128 |
I just found out on Christmas morning the a close friends father was KIA there. He had just read "Killing Patton" and said it was one of the best researched books on the subject he has read. I got that book for Christmas and just finished it last night. OUTstanding read.. The savagery of the Germans and Russians is difficult to comprehend, much less read about.. Patton was one tough SOB..
Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69
Pro-Constitution.
LET'S GO BRANDON!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,270
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,270 |
I had an Uncle die in that battle.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 16,367
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 16,367 |
Uncle Charlie only ever told a story about doing KP during that time - he was 82nd Airborne.
RIP Charles Shubert
I've always been a curmudgeon - now I'm an old curmudgeon.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 17,230
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 17,230 |
been doing some reading.
Battle: The Story of the Bulge by John Toland is a good read, not too long.
The Bitter Woods: The Battle of the Bulge, John Eisenhower, longer, more complicated.
A Time for Trumpets: The Untold Story of the Battle of the Bulge Charles MacDonald. This is the longest, most complicated.
I wish I had a topo map of the area, might help me understand more of what is going on. The maps are ok in the books but not great.
I read them somewhat out of order, I think if I had read them in the order above, it would have helped a lot.
Each book is very good in its own way.
Sycamore
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 23,364
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 23,364 |
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,300
Campfire Oracle
|
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,300 |
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 11,194
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 11,194 |
My uncle was there, always referred to it as the break through. Always talked how his Company got over run and pinned down and US armor busting in to get them out.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,682
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,682 |
I once asked my dad if he was in it. He said no, he was happy he was in a hospital in England recovering from a bullet wound (received behind enemy lines in Germany, I found out later) he got in November of '44. He never did like the cold. And he never told me about how he got out after receiving the wound in the leg. He was on a recon mission. I can't imagine.
The biggest problem our country has is not systemic racism, it's systemic stupidity.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,761
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,761 |
A little off topic but John Waters ( Gen Patton's grandson) shoots at my Skeet club. Put a GI helmet on him and you would think it was George Patton himself.
I asked John a few weeks ago what he thought about Bill O'Rielly's book "Killing Patton". John replied that the book was "pure conjecture" and the Patton family no issues with "Killing Patton" since most of the profits from the book go to charity.
Doc
Doc
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,204
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,204 |
Mine Father was there as well. Infantry Captain. Only one man out of 180 in his company that landed in Paris on October of 1944 were still with the company on VE day. I have that man's complete diary, from their first battle to the war's end. I'll write it up and post it here if anyone is interested. Growing up, I used to ask my Dad what he did in the war. His answer was always the same - "My job was to make sure the men brushed their teeth and got to bed on time".
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 67,667
Campfire Kahuna
|
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 67,667 |
Father in Law, and a favorite Uncle were there. My hat is always off to those that endured that hell.
Sam......
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 14,682
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 14,682 |
The 365th Fighter Group literally broke the back of Hitler's Panzer Divisions during the Battle of the Bulge! Go here: http://hellhawks.org/Read the book...HELL HAWKS!
Even birds know not to land downwind!
|
|
|
|
|
617 members (1234, 12344mag, 10Glocks, 17CalFan, 10gaugemag, 007FJ, 69 invisible),
2,603
guests, and
1,269
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,190,667
Posts18,455,932
Members73,909
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
