Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Why do parents usually 'defend' their POS son when killed by the police?

I can't speak to other area's of the country but around here most of the black kids and some of the white ones are being raised by Grandparents (lots of times just a Grandmother) that are too old to have that responsibility. The parents, usually a single Mom, is not ready to give up playing to raise the kid, or kids. Thus, the kid has little, to no, oversight of his actions. miles

You are a parent, right? Some of these people are worthless parents and some try to raise their kids proper or as best as they can.

They start with a basically nice, cute kid, that is their joy at ages 3-7-10. They listen and obey most of the time and they are loving kids. Then puberty hits. From ages 13-17, just 4 short years they can go from cute kid to man'child monster hanging with the older thugs. At 13, they are still watching Spongebob and Adventure Time, and 4 years later all they want to do is get high and get laid.

It is very difficult for a parent that has had a decent kid for 14 years to accept he went bad in 2.

"He was was a good boy!"

Well, 2 years ago he was. they are parents, they love their kids and it is difficult to understand and see that they have gone bad. As a parent, you never want to believe things are THAT bad, and then it hits you and is heartbreakiing.

If you have raised kids through the teen years, you get it.

I guess I'm fortunate with my three children. I can't relate. My "go to" question for them when they were growing up (in response to bad behavior) was "what would Jesus think about this." That pretty much shamed them and built up their conscience.

We're just animals, as much as some like to think otherwise. You can't make a pointer out of the typical pitbull and it's not unusual for a puppy to be batshit crazy, even when it's litermates are "normal".

Why would one expect a child to be different than their biological parents, short of a mental problem?

Sorta like "the apple don't fall far from the tree?"

Yes, but there are exceptions, both good and bad. Those without experience in these matters are quick to blame environmental factors without considering linage or defect. They are the same types that buy into things like global warming. Some are just bred to be POS. The worst tend to be defective.

Pat, you are of course, including in your analysis, "nurture" and "Nature".

I forgot to add. Parents love to take credit for having "normal" children, often way too much credit, and are quick to judge others who were'nt so lucky. The worst are those who have no children at all. I can't imagine what it would be like to be the parent of a real criminal, but I know many good people who are. It is hard on them.

Why does every encounter with an LE have to end with an unarmed person being shot to death?

Sure. It's important to seperate common criminals from the uncommon ones in this discussion.

So long as one has a mind, they are the ones responsible for their actions, good and bad.

On the flip side I've seen the same lack of parenting in what would seem to be "perfect" white middle class and upper middle class homes. Both mom and dad are busy with their careers, their lives, their friends and there just isn't any significant time put into parenting.

It doesn't. I have talked to the police to talk about shooting, make suggestions to reduce speed limits, show them my new rifle and all sorts of things like that. Never was armed or shot by the police.

It is when criminals resist arrest that some of them die when the police have to take them down. Some of them need to be killed when they assault the police. In everyone of these recent deaths those that died deserved what happened to them.

The same thing happened when Trayvon Martin was killed by George Zimmerman. He attempted to murder George Zimmerman and was killed in self defense. I watched the trial and the evidence supported the Zimmerman's statement claiming self defense in every significant respect.

The only difference is that Tyrant Obama the Liar and the progressive fascists are using these incidents to fill their base with hatred and fear for political gain. This is the same evil that Hitler used to win the support of the German people by filling them with hatred and fear of the Jews. It was evil when Hitler did it and just as evil when Tyrant Obama the Liar did it.

The ghetto gangster class has children primarily to increase the size of their welfare checks. They are for the most part role models for the children and criminals also.

To admit your kid was a justifiable is to admit you failed as a parent. Why would anyone who denied reality for decades change?

I grew up in a fairly afluent east bay neighborhood. While I don't think anyone I went to school with was shot by the police, a few ended up in jail on drug charges and in high school one girl stabbed another girl to death.

And 99 times out of a 100 in the schools our kids have gone to, when a kid is headed for trouble their mama always says, oh not my baby.

I believe you have pretty much nailed it most here are thinking in terms of real parents. I am sure that good folks have a bad kid from time to time, but I truly believe the apple falls close to the tree.

I'm in simular have a P.O.S nephew i don't allow him on property anymore

My nephew is an irresponsible POS. One of five children and the other four are great kids. So it's not always the parents. No defending the bad apple in my family. Three of his siblings won't even talk to him anymore.

He's already spawned two children. and he's leaching off his parents. The only thing I would offer to give my nephew is money to pay for a vasectomy.