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Your approach to the humorous aspects of our "occupations" certainly fall under the same stars.
I'll be REALLY pissed if you ever start posting dead serious gloom and doom, "America as we knew it is gone....' Horse apple posts.
GTC
I'm a welder, and that's about all I'm ever dead serious about. America will never be gone while I draw breath...
"Chances Will Be Taken"
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"Chances Will Be Taken"
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To me, the trouble with welding is that if you can, then you must, or your world will not be at peace.
It's like a pronounced doom, or fate...
I am old. My eyes aren't all that good any more. Aint' nobody wants to hear it, though...
I suspect one day their gonna miss me at dinner time, and find me wedged back into a [bleep] hole. Dead with a stinger in my hand... john, just dont cash out at byron lol
I kill chit. "The Heathens nest"
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Speaking of [bleep] holes...
I worked the head repair there and braidwood...
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Welding will pay more once you have the certifications. Real world numbers? I make a bit over 51 dollars per hour with over time after 40, benefits and 17 dollars per hour for my truck and machine. I weld pipelines and you could not pay me enough to work in nuke plants or refineries. A guy I worked with for a while had been a pipe welder for a long time. He did pipeline and had worked on the Alaskan pipeline etc...Then he worked on the nuclear plant they built nearby. He said it was the best job he ever had. Two fitters getting everything ready to weld and then he would weld. An inspector would come look and fill out a report, then a second inspector would come by and fill out another. If they didn't match that was a week shutdown while they hammered out the issue, all the time he sat there waiting for them to decide how to go forward. He said lots of weeks he would work 8 hours max a week.
Otto is my co-pilot.
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Welding will pay more once you have the certifications. Real world numbers? I make a bit over 51 dollars per hour with over time after 40, benefits and 17 dollars per hour for my truck and machine. I weld pipelines and you could not pay me enough to work in nuke plants or refineries. A guy I worked with for a while had been a pipe welder for a long time. He did pipeline and had worked on the Alaskan pipeline etc...Then he worked on the nuclear plant they built nearby. He said it was the best job he ever had. Two fitters getting everything ready to weld and then he would weld. An inspector would come look and fill out a report, then a second inspector would come by and fill out another. If they didn't match that was a week shutdown while they hammered out the issue, all the time he sat there waiting for them to decide how to go forward. He said lots of weeks he would work 8 hours max a week. You are correct as I know how they work and it is BS, a lot of wasted time for no real reason. A very boring job IMHO.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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To me, the trouble with welding is that if you can, then you must, or your world will not be at peace.
It's like a pronounced doom, or fate...
I am old. My eyes aren't all that good any more. Aint' nobody wants to hear it, though...
I suspect one day their they're gonna miss me at dinner time, and find me wedged back into a [bleep] hole. Dead with a stinger in my hand... I'm going to Frame this and post it on my shop wall, Amigo. If you put it on the wall, we oughtta at least try to spel it rite...
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The better the cut=the better the fit-up=better welds. Win/win
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A proper fit up makes it easier to make a quality weld, but a quality weld can be made without a good fit up. I made this high pressure pipe weld with out a good fit up, the x-ray wS good
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Man,.....
.....whole lotta' stringers later, eh ?
GTC
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I learned at 16. I was handed a hood and told to follow Charlie, a pipeline certified welder around, and "watch the bead." After doing that 14 hours a day for two weeks, I was handed leads and several sticks of 7018. We had I-beam laid out on the floor and I was told to weld the flats and make the bead look like Charlies'. I did so and as I completed each weld the slag would curl up and start peeling off revealing a perfect 7018 weld. Those welds were for a reverse pit for a workover rig and had to stand a lot of stress, including being sucked onto a semi trailer via winch, but I guess held up fine. At that point, I still had a lot to learn, including running 7018 vertical, but basically learned to weld better than most, including some "professional" welders, just by "watching the bead" of a really good welder for two weeks.
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What's the Theme Song for that Site,....
"Music to slash one's wrists by ?"
More sad defeatist horsechit.
Things may get real slow, but to posit that these skills will "Die" is blithering idiocy, rooted in depression and unhappiness.
GTC
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Whatever you wanna think.
I spent decades mastering the trade,....got decent at it.
There's better ways to make a living,...but nobody could tell me either.
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Whatever you wanna think.
I spent decades mastering the trade,....got decent at it.
There's better ways to make a living,...but nobody could tell me either. Location, location, location... I haven't made less than $60k in 25 years as a toolmaker. Most years are within spitting distance of a six figure income. Lot of overtime, still have had time to enjoy life. My son started as a machinist, worked his way up to process engineer in a non-union shop. His income ain't chump change either.
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It matters less about what you do and more about how much people want YOU to be the one doing it. Be good at what you do....and don't be afraid to take a better gig.
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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Getting burnt is all part of the job. Look at a welders arms and the scars tell the story.. Seems a welder hasn't arrived til he's stood 170 ft in the air on an 8" beam and poured a paper cup of gator-ade on his sack for relief... Rollin, that's damn funny!!!!
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I learned at 16. I was handed a hood and told to follow Charlie, a pipeline certified welder around, and "watch the bead." After doing that 14 hours a day for two weeks, I was handed leads and several sticks of 7018. We had I-beam laid out on the floor and I was told to weld the flats and make the bead look like Charlies'. I did so and as I completed each weld the slag would curl up and start peeling off revealing a perfect 7018 weld. Those welds were for a reverse pit for a workover rig and had to stand a lot of stress, including being sucked onto a semi trailer via winch, but I guess held up fine. At that point, I still had a lot to learn, including running 7018 vertical, but basically learned to weld better than most, including some "professional" welders, just by "watching the bead" of a really good welder for two weeks.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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