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Lightfoot - would a spacer machined out of aluminum and affixed to the inside of a front Stith tube with epoxy provide adequate support for a shorter scope such as the OP's? I'm thinking this set-up would work best in a tube that uses the external locking ring rather than the tubes that have the tensioner in the bottom. Thanks


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No need to epoxy anything. Yes aluminum will work, but black Delrin is better. Make a spacer either .2, .4, or .6" wide. OD small enough to go inside the sleeve and the ID big enough not to obscure the lens. Slide the insert in, slide the scope in and nothing's going anywhere. No need for epoxy.


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At 50 yards my rifle shot high so that helps with any elevation issues. I managed to get it right on at 50 but the 100 yd range is under snow at the moment. I did already loosen the rear ring and try to push scope forward and it would not budge so I think it must be OK in the tube. Here are more pics of the mount.

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The scope isn't bottomed out in the tube but from looking at the rear you don't have much room to move it forward without the adjustment ring hitting the mount bolt.

My 99s always shoot high if I zero them on the bore sighter. I just set them 2 bars low now and it works pretty well.

Sounds like you have a winner then!


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Originally Posted by Lightfoot
The scope isn't bottomed out in the tube but from looking at the rear you don't have much room to move it forward without the adjustment ring hitting the mount bolt.

My 99s always shoot high if I zero them on the bore sighter. I just set them 2 bars low now and it works pretty well.

Sounds like you have a winner then!


The overal measurment of the scope is 10 1/2 inches which means I have one inch in the tube. As long as the rifle performs that would be OK?


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How did anyone back in the day mount the rear ring without taking the turrets off? I have a Balvar Scope with no external adjustments but use a Beuhler mount for windage and elevation.


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The eyepiece was removed, then the rear Stith ring was installed and the eyepiece was screwed back on.


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Originally Posted by Phil99
The eyepiece was removed, then the rear Stith ring was installed and the eyepiece was screwed back on.



Extra care taken for moisture?


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Originally Posted by ekp
Originally Posted by Phil99
The eyepiece was removed, then the rear Stith ring was installed and the eyepiece was screwed back on.



Extra care taken for moisture?


The old scopes were not gassed............. If you're worried splitting the rear ring is an option.


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Actually the old Weavers were "gassed" with a lot of hot El Paso air. You had to send back to the factory for a can of replacement air every time you opened up one of their scopes. Just kidding, but having spent a chunk of the 90's living about 45 miles up the road on Las Cruces, NM, I can attest to the quality and quantity of hot Texas air in El Paso.


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I started thinking that my scope is too short for the Stith. I checked on the overall length of a K 2.5 which a lot of people seemed to use and it is just 3/16 inch longer. Would that really make any difference. Besides the K 2.5 what scope was used in the Stith?


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Originally Posted by ekp
I started thinking that my scope is too short for the Stith. I checked on the overall length of a K 2.5 which a lot of people seemed to use and it is just 3/16 inch longer. Would that really make any difference.


The K2.5 or K3 or any fixed power doesn't have the power changing ring in the way so they can be pushed further into the tube than the V4.5.


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Lyman All American scopes (the 2.5 and 3X with straight tubes) from the 50s / 60s also work well in the 1" Stith.

Brian, I think you're referring to the older Leupold M7 3X and not the M8. The eyepiece will unscrew from an M7, but not from an M8.

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