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I have the Drop Away Rest on both my hunting compounds and it is the Ripcord Code Red and I have yet to find a better rest for hunting

Patience with those who have not come around to this yet.

I was one of them, in a huge way. I defied the suggestions of everyone and " I knew better". It was humbling for me to make the change.

That period of being humbled was shorter lived then the long term advantages of the change.

Looking back, well..... I learned to open my mind to some of the new things. Give them a try, evaluate the facts myself.

I'm much better for this now!

If the WB works for you that's great. But the QAD is a great rest that does away with all the problems you described. Arrow isn't coming off the rest, you can draw and let down, then draw again without resetting the rest. Tunes easy and precisely, it's tough. I've been shooting and hunting with one for three years and just can't find anything to complain about. And I'm pretty critical and demanding. If you ever decide to change rest give the QAD a real hard look.

I have the QAD and WB. WB work fine just tear up my fletching. WB's are great for tree stand hunting though

No elk, but I'll drop this off to ponder... 2016 shafts, Black Diamond 2 blade Eskimo 110 grain, draw of 40 pounds or maybe just a bit over, anyway somewhere there 40-45 pounds.

Round wheel bow from the 90s, Hoyt of some type IIRC.

Wife shot a LARGE pig... 2.5 or 3 inch shields, not counting fat and skin and hair layers. Shot him in the heart at 15 or so steps. He just looked up and went back to eating for a bit.

When we found him later, the broadhead was sticking out the hide/hair on the other side. About 1 inch or so.

Not much energy on that bow. It would blow through deer even with expandables for my wife.

The clue here was cut on contact well penetrating sharp head.

Edit to add, wife under 5 feet tall, draw is short, I dont' remember how short, but short to boot so not much of a long power stroke either.

Oh yeah, most important part... scale we had only went 350 pounds. The pig bottomed the scale so not sure what he weighed.

With the specs in the OP you should be getting 260-265 or so fps with any good modern bow. I shot a 389gr arrow from a 60lb bow at 284fps last year. That was @ 29" so there's a big chunk of the difference there, but still... If you can swing a better bow it'll help you quite a bit. Otherwise, Use a razor sharp cut-on-contact head and rock on.

KE doesn't kill deer sharp board heads in right place do.

WB's may be good enough (I too used them for years), but wary game will hear you draw an arrow across them. This is a fact...period. I won't go down any rabbit trails about any other problems with them, and if your game isn't that wary (like they aren't in a lot of places) they'll work.

They don't work for us.

IMHO kinetic energy is BS anyway. A 1000 grn fiberglass arrow at 110fps has 26 lbs of kinetic energy and will push a conical harpoon point completely through a 200lb alligator gar (which will get nothing but sparks from an axe). It's momentum that does the trick.

There are some tricks of the trade to quiet down the arrow being drawn across a Whisker Biscuit. I personally use car/automobile wax on my carbon arrows and it makes them pretty slick. Lots of ways to skin a cat. Tom

Some arrows seem to make more noise than others through a WB. The Beemans I currently use are quiet.

I'm certainly up for trying the QAD, one of these days. Sounds like it works fine. But I'm in no hurry. What I have works on the game I have any interest in killing with a bow.

I personally have nothing against the Whisker Biscuit and used this rest for a while, but switched to the Code Red because my Bow shot much better groups with this drop away rest. Another rest I used for a while was the Muzzy Drop away or I should say push away and it also worked great. Just use what works for you, because they all work if tuned right.

That's all that matters. Not everybody's needs are the same.

Lots of folks looked at me weird... been waxing shafts since the 80s. Won't wax the last bit by the fletch so I can see exactly what the arrow went through, but waxing sure helps quiet them down on draw, and then in the day, way before WBs and other stuff, the button and flipper got moleskin on them. Had precut from Dr Schols package, and had to replace often during season if shooting a lot.

Most people don't hunt animals that spook from your stomach growling 40 yards away.

Bare plunger and bare flipper with AL shafts is what I found on a buddy that invited me to his lair in CO for elk/muleys years ago.

Found out at that time, it didn't bother them a bit.

And they would stand still at long ranges and watch the arrow fly until it hit them.

I was totally amazed....

Dont' work down here for sure...