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Originally Posted by denton
Hold the phone, guys. There was method to McConnell's madness.

He knew that defunding was going to be voted down. That is, the no votes were going to prevail, no matter what he did.

His no vote puts him on the prevailing side. Since he is on the prevailing side, he can now require a re-vote.


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there's a reason why mcconnell voted against it, it's becuase if he votes yes, the bill fails, he cna't bring it up again, it's a procedural trick that reid used as well when he couldn't get a bill passed he would vote no, just so he could bring the bill up for debate again,


Is this true?
I ask, what kind of phuqed-up rules are those?

That rule is solely about evading responsibility or coming down on one side or the other of an issue. IT HAS NO OTHER FUNCTION.

\Now McConnell can tell PP supporters that he voted in their favor, meanwhile he can tell PP opponents that he had to vote that way due to "procedural rules". WTF!!!???? What a set up!!!

We ought to be carrying pitchforks and torches just over that rule.


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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
So glad we finally got that Republican majority.
exactly.


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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
So glad we finally got that Republican majority.
exactly.
Doesn't anyone remember 3rd grade arithmetic? How do you "grow" 54 Republican Seats into 60 without an election? The R's won the house, but they did not get the number (60 & 66(veto override))necessary for control. Is that really to hard to understand?

Even if they choose to change the rules of the Senate, to simple majority, which they could do and has been done on rare occasion, they would never have the number of votes to override a POSPOSTUS veto.

I have little use for McConnell, but he is a shrewd and knowledgeable politician from his years in the Senate and should be able to strategize as good as anyone, how and when to do what is needed to move important legislation forward. Most will disagree with that, and it's really moot since there are simply not enough "R"s to move legislation forward without some bipartisan support.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Originally Posted by denton
Hold the phone, guys. There was method to McConnell's madness.

He knew that defunding was going to be voted down. That is, the no votes were going to prevail, no matter what he did.

His no vote puts him on the prevailing side. Since he is on the prevailing side, he can now require a re-vote.


that is patent bullchit. McConnell has zero credibility, and zero track record of trying, let alone succeeding, to prevent ANY obama plan or action.


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I have little use for McConnell, but he is a shrewd and knowledgeable politician from his years in the Senate and should be able to strategize as good as anyone, how and when to do what is needed to move important legislation forward.


Let me get this straight. You think McConnell voted yea so that he could bring it back up and maybe some Democrats will have changed their mind. If this is the case, You and McConnell need to hit and pass what you are smoking. Might want to start a new line of hemp because that would be some good stuff. Gus will jump all over it. miles


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" Most will disagree with that, and it's really moot since there are simply not enough "R"s to move legislation forward without some bipartisan support."

Look at Obamacare. Funny the rues work different when the Dems have a slim majority.


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Originally Posted by milespatton
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I have little use for McConnell, but he is a shrewd and knowledgeable politician from his years in the Senate and should be able to strategize as good as anyone, how and when to do what is needed to move important legislation forward.


Let me get this straight. You think McConnell voted yea so that he could bring it back up and maybe some Democrats will have changed their mind. If this is the case, You and McConnell need to hit and pass what you are smoking. Might want to start a new line of hemp because that would be some good stuff. Gus will jump all over it. miles




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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Planned parenthood should be defunded for money laundering.

They give all of our .gov monies to support people in congress that support abortion.

Just can't make this stuff up.

as always...

follow the money...


"Planned Parenthood donated $679,596 through its PACs and affiliates to pro-choice candidates in the 2014 election cycle, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a research group that tracks money in U.S. politics.

The Center for Responsive Politics compiled the data using figures released by the Federal Election Commission and the Internal Revenue Service.

Here are the biggest recipients of funds from Planned Parenthood:

Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass., received $22,290.
Democrat Michelle Nunn, who ran unsuccessfully against Sen. David Perdue, R-Ga., received $16,550.
Rep. Tim Bishop, D-N.Y., who was unseated in the 2014 election, received $16,200.
Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., received $15,999.
Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., received $15,299.
Alison Lundergan Grimes, Kentucky’s Democratic secretary of state who unsuccessfully challenged Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, received $14,350.
Former Sen. Mark Udall, D-Colo., who lost his re-election bid, received $14,200.
Former Sen. Kay Hagan, D-N.C., also unseated in the 2014 election, received $12,811.
Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., received $10,999.
Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick, D-Ariz., received $10,850.
Sen. Gary Peters, D-Mich., received $10,499.
Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz., received $10,300.
Rep. Marc Veasey, D-Texas, received $10,300.
Rep. Scott Peters, D-Calif., received $10,291.
Former Rep. Dan Maffei, D-N.Y., who lost his re-election bid in 2014, received $10,250.
Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., received $10,057.
Reps. Julia Brownley, D-Calif.; Lois Capps, D-Calif.; Elizabeth Esty, D-Conn.; Sean Patrick Maloney, D-N.Y.; Patrick Murphy, D-Fla.; and Raul Ruiz, D-Calif., and former Reps. Carol Shea-Porter, D-N.H., and Joe Garcia, D-Fla., each received $10,000.

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the lone Republican recipient of Planned Parenthood funds was Rep. Richard Hanna, R-N.Y., who received $2,823.


Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., each received $1,000."

http://dailysignal.com/2015/07/21/p...-in-2014-to-help-elect-these-candidates/


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the entire panoply of 'nonprofits' and 'foundations' are engaged in a massive fraud/ money laundering scam. They pass bucks between themselves, to hide the origin and destination of illegal, questionable donations, and the money is always for influence buying, never for the intended purpose of the foundation/charity.


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