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Originally Posted by MOGC
Putting him in a room by himself and refusal to deal with him would probably result in a lawsuit. A child with an IEP is danged near blame free. There just aren't many consequences for their actions. Plenty of parents actively seek the diagnosis for the extra income on the welfare check. It also puts a large share of the responsibility on other people than them personally making life easier. It's the system and they definitely know how to manipulate it. The media and the liberals love these stories.


Pretty much. There are children that need special consideration, but when handcuffing them so that they don't kill the other students with a pair of scissors or jump through a glass window is necessary, the problem is bigger than the classroom.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
The laws of this country have created an environment where discipline is considered a crime, or at least a civil liability, and bad people (kids included)get all the attention, while the good ones pay for it.

When things get bad, there is nobody left to go to, but the cops, and they are left to deal with an unwinnable situation.


That is the best assessment I have heard in a long time.

How we address mental health issues in America is a classic example. The mental health institution for the 21st century in America is your local county jail. You can't tell me mental health issues and Behavior Disorders issue in a school are not tied together.

How many of those youngsters just like the one you see in this video are going to end up with mental health issues as an adult? I'd say about 25% just based on my observations. They are NOT required to accept normal values and they do not have any concept of what a societal "norm" is because they are not required to learn them. They are "special" ya know.

They have been coddled and taken care of for so long without consequences they do not know how to behave when they become adults. Some of them eventually slip into serious mental health conditions because they do not know how to integrate into a "normal" society. Another 25% become career criminal because they can't keep or won't keep a good job or train for a good job. After all, they have been told by the system for years they are not "normal".

We have done these kids no favors by making them "special". And, when things turn to crap who gets the call? You know who gets the call and when they don't do it to YOUR standards, you second guess them and some even lose their jobs or even go to prison because they did not do it "your" way.

I was an SRO for 6 years. One day I was a street cop and the next I was an SRO. There were no "schools" back then to get trained up on Juvenile issues and laws, you just did your best to keep the peace.

If you think you are so GD smart, here is the manual. Figure it out yourself.
http://www.ojjdp.gov/about/legislation.html

kwg
MOGC just mentioned an IEP. An IEP simply puts the prisoners in charge of the prison. I don't know what intellectual jackass came up with the idea of an IEP but that person needs to be shot and thrown to the hogs.
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More of the same. These parents put their "at risk" kids in a boot camp to fix and are mad, and sueing, because they were'nt nice to them in there.

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4 POLICE OFFICERS ARRESTED FOR ABUSING CHILDREN AT POLICE-RUN BOOT CAMP

Four police officers have been arrested on suspicion of physically abusing 13 children attending a police-run boot camp in San Luis Obispo.

From May 17 to 24, the one-week Leadership Empowerment and Discipline Boot Camp Program brought at-risk youth to Camp San Luis Obisbo, a National Guard military base.

Promotional materials say the program, which is sponsored by Huntington Park and South Gate police departments, is designed for children experiencing behavior or disciplinary problems.

The San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Office began its investigation on May 28 after receiving reports of abuse from the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services.

In early June, an attorney for some of the children involved said some had been beaten bloody and one suffered broke fingers.

"They never told me that they were going to beat them or they were going to put them in a dark room or they were going to fracture him or break his arm," said Veronica Bernal, the mother of one of the children.

"When they didn't do their exercises the way they were supposed to, they were stomped in the back. Their fingers were stepped on," said Araceli Pulido, who had two daughters at the camp.

Of the 37 camp participants, 13 male and female victims, ranging from 12 to 17, claimed they had been assaulted by officers at the camp, sheriff's officials said.

Sheriff's detectives arrested the four officers involved on Tuesday and Wednesday.

The South Gate Police Department issued a statement on its website saying, "We support the San Luis Obispo Sheriff's and the District Attorney's Office regarding the need for transparency in this matter and we will continue to cooperate with them as is necessary and appropriate."

Gomez and Gomez-Marquez were arrested on suspicion of willful cruelty to a child, criminal threats, criminal conspiracy, criminal battery and abuse under color of authority.

Larios was arrested on suspicion of willful cruelty to a child, criminal conspiracy, criminal battery and abuse under color of authority.

Nijland was arrested on suspicion of willful cruelty to a child, criminal battery and abuse under color of authority.

http://abc7.com/news/4-police-officers-arrested-for-abusing-children-at-police-run-boot-camp/905602/


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So, they pay someone to not be a total pansy ass to their kids, then sue them for not being a total pansy ass to their kids.

Belly up to the stupid bar...

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said Araceli Pulido, who had two daughters at the camp.


Ala BigStick, "Hint there."



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Who pays someone not to be a pansy azz to their kids?

That whole concept is baffling.


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Anyone been through Basic in the last 40 years? Drill Sergeants aren't allowed to touch recruits, but seem to still get the job done.


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Originally Posted by mathman
How about a real answer?

Teachers are stuck dealing with children who have never experienced significant consequences, who are all special, who are filled with unearned self esteem, et cetera.

Having never been in the wrong (as far as they know) these children blow a gasket when something doesn't go their way, when they are told no, or when they have to sit still and pay attention.

Since we can't do anything to make them uncomfortable or ding their delusions, what do we do?

There is a BLDD epidemic.


OK. Here is a real answer...taze the parent.


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