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Thanks again guys, certainly plenty to mull over.

A couple of you mentioned fly's..

There is a technique over here that is generally frowned on by the fly fishing purists and viewed as a poachers method, but not actually illegal.

This is to attach a small bubble float on the end of your line, and then about 18" from that back start to tie droppers for fly's , usually two or three.

The weight of the bubble float (especially if half filled with water) and the fact this is used with a spinning rod enables a person to cast out far further than is possible with a normal fly setup..

This method is supposed to be very effective on lakes when there is a bit of wind and a chop on the water, and is fished into the wind...

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Pete, I seem to recall that method being recommended under just such conditions in a Sports Afield magazine back in the 60s.

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There are always the "purists" in the outdoor pursuits who can't stand to see (from their lofty perches)anyone enjoy themselves in a way of which they (the purists) do not approve.


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Pete, that is pretty common in the west.. Or used to be..
It is nice for mt. lakes where there is difficult wading or little room for a back cast.. Haven't seen it used for a while, but then I seldom fish much where there are others around..
I have two fly rods set up with spinning reels for just this purpose..


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It's also legal in many "fly-fishing only" areas: The only thing that matters is catching fish on a fly, not how it's cast. But you've got to check the regs.

I would rather cast a fly with a spinning rod than some of the contraptions fly-casting purists use. If you're gonna use a bobber and a bunch of big split-shot, why bother with a fly rod?


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We have murdered (and also released smile ) many a trout with spinning rods via small clear bubble and a fly.
The Lochsa, Selway and Kelly Creek were our fisheries.
I honestly haven't fished Cayuse or Kelley Creek in a long time.....but then the purists huddle up there. smile

Wanted to add. We only kept feesh in areas where it was legal.
Cayuse, Kelly Creek and the upper Lochsa are C&R.

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Pete E, please excuse me here a bit.

Here's another question for the fly flingers.. I'll hopefully be in the Wind River Range mid-October elk hunting and be camped within hiking distance of several alpine ponds or small lakes.

I'm taking a 3-wt five-piece fly rod but am really a neophyte with fly gear. How about an UL spinning real and the lures mentioned above?

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I should add I have two fly reels loaded, ready to go, and have several boxes of flys and nymphs so have all the stuff; I'm just a lot more competent with spinning gear.

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I would ditch the fly gear and pack a small two or three piece UL spinning rig loaded with 4 or 6 pound test. A pocket sized box with an assortment of Panther Martins, maybe 12 or 15 lures total in small sizes and various colors. 3 or 4 small superdupers and maybe a couple of the smallest Little Cleo spoons I could find.

IME you'll catch Brookies, cutts, or browns until you get tired of reeling them in fishing beaver ponds in the high country with something in that assortment. When you land a half dozen in one pond and the others will follow but not bite, move to the next pond and let the first cool off for a half hour or so. When you come back they'll be biting again. Try to sneak up on them too, don't just walk up shoreside in your big orange vest, they'll see you and get shy.

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Thanks TK. This thread got me to think along those lines. I think that's the way I'll go.

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For those folks thinking of trying trout on a light weight lure and need a compact, easy carry set up, Mitchell used to do a combo called the Outback for reasonable money.

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We don't see them too often in the UK, but they are often for sale via Ebay from sellers in the States.

There are more specialist rods specifically designed for UL lures out there now, but from talking to folks who have the Michell Outback set up, they say it works just fine with the small to medium weight Mepps style lures..

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Pete, that's essentially what I have with a UL Pflueger reel with 4lb test but on a back packers, five- piece, 3 weight fly rod. I'm using the above poster's suggestions here for a Mepps, Panther Martin spinners, and the various small stick baits with a few other odds thrown in; for example, some split shot and some extra light line for a dropper line as mentioned above to fling a few flys.

I've also used the clear bubble you mentioned above to cast a fly with spinning gear to bass and panfish here in the Midwest.

I love elk hunting but am actually hoping I get to spend some time doing this.

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George,

Wishing you good luck on that..It seems the place I was intending to fish has a season that ends in the next couple of weeks, so I don't think I will get a chance to get out now..

Plan B is to use the same tackle and methods on a local canal thats literally a few hundred yardse from my house.
This would be for perch and pike rather than trout, but the season runs through the winter on these and i will hopefully be in a possition to try for trout when the season opens again next March..

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Thanks Pete. Same to you. As the saying goes, "any day fishing is not a bad day." Or some such paraphrase of that.

BTW. I don't know if you ever got my PM some time ago but on MAPS, your "neck of the woods" looks fabulous!

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Hi George,

I don't recall it, but thanks for that.

I have to say, for such a relatively small place, North Wales really does have some breath taking country side, with everything from rugged mountains to a gorgeous stretches of coastline..I think the only thing that lets us down is the weather, but if we didn't get the rain we do, we wouldn't have the rich woodlands and pastures ...

If that weather holds, I shall be out tomorrow chasing those perch, and maybe a pike, in the local canal..

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Good luck Pete. I have jury duty which I suspect will be decidedly less satisfactory than canal duty.

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