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Originally Posted by Gus
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physical violence is never the answer. we all know that, don't we?


Oh look, it's Reginald Denny !

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who? i'm descended from the luddites, ok? so, who is that dude?


Here is Reginald Denny.



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Originally Posted by Gus

physical violence is never the answer. we all know that, don't we?


No, sometimes, ya stupid f'k, it is THE answer.


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I seem to recall reading about a knife fight in the Arkansas House or Senate long ago. Can't remember much of the details. Might have to google it and see. miles


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Y'all going to like this.


Little Rock, Ark - In the first session of the Arkansas State General Assembly, the Speaker of the House of Representatives murdered another legislator with a Bowie knife on the floor of the house. The year is 1837.

The historic knife fight started with a debate in the house on a bill to offer bounties for wolf hides. This bill encouraged the killing of wolves.

Because of long standing political differences Representative Major J.J. Anthony proposed an amendment to the wolf bounty bill requiring the Arkansas Real Estate Bank President to sign each bounty check. The President of the Bank was non-other than House Speaker, John Wilson. Wilson took insult to the motion, regarding it as repetition and the continuation of disparaging insults that had been made at him. When Wilson asked if the amendment meant anything personal by his motion Representative Anthony remained silent. Then Speaker of the House Wilson demanded that Anthony take his seat. At once Anthony responded “I will not”. Wilson declared, “Then – I will make you.”

Wilson descended the steps of the speakers platform, and as he reached the bottom step – each man drew his Bowie knife. Anthony’s knife was slightly longer than Wilsons. As they drew closer, Representative Royston thrust a chair between the two in an attempt to avert the fight. “Each man seized a round of the chair with his left hand and began cutting and slashing at the other. Anthony made a downward slash, and, the keen blade descending upon Wilson’s left wrist, made a deep wound, almost severing the hand from the arm . . . then at this point Anthony threw his knife at Wilson.” Instead of striking at the point, the Bowie knife struck slantwise and fell to the floor. In the instant the knife fell to the floor, the wounded Wilson then plunged his knife to the hilt in Anthony’s body. Representative Anthony fell to the floor mortally wounded. He died minutes later.

Representative Wilson was then arrested, expelled from the House of Representatives, and acquitted in trial on the grounds of "excusable homicide". Wilson was later re-elected to the Arkansas House. He never fully recovered from his wound; his wrist was partially paralyzed for the rest of his life. He moved to Texas and died in 1865.

Source:

Historical Review of Arkansas by Fay Hempstead. 1911.


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This article is kind of long to post but you can go read it. It gives some details about 8 of the more famous fights in congress. CONGRESSIONAL FIGHTS
One famous incident was during the pre-Civil War days when fights over slavery were common. During a general melee involving a couple dozen reps, Washburne/IL got into it with Barksdale/MS. Washburne grabbed Barksdale by the hair and swung at his face but missed when Barksdale ducked, leaving Washburne holding his wig. Nobody in the house knew Barksdale was bald and many quit fighting to stare. Barksdale grabbed his wig back and put it on - backwards. That got everyone laughing. Somehow another rep got his hands on it after that and yelled "hooray, Boys. I've got his scalp" Then the whole thing broke into a riot of laughter and the fight was over.


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And there is this little incident, which occurred in fairly recent past:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_shooting_incident_(1954)


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Originally Posted by Gus
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Gabrielle Giffords


ok, but i think she was out on the streets, and not in a session of congress, right?

i should have been a bit more specific. i was referring to an active session of congress, either of the house or senate individually, or in a composite group. i did not make that point clear, sorry.

physical violence is never the answer. we all know that, don't we?



Sometimes physical violence is the only answer

Particularly towards people that desire to deprive you of your right to life or liberty


I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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Originally Posted by Gus
then, who got attacked?

and who attacked him/her physically?

has such an event ever happened before, or not?


Well yes...didn't Monica already do that?


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