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I replaced with a Jewell and my sons with Timney

I won't own a rifle that doesn't have a 3 position Winchester style safety - including Remington clones. That being said, you can eff up almost any trigger and make a rifle unsafe.

I wonder how many of these 'took my safety off to unload' NDs happened in post '82 700's that don't lock the bolt...

I've owned Remington 700's since the late 60's & probably bought at least 20 of them of the years including 3 722's & 2 721's. Never had a problem with any of them & fired thousands of rounds during that time. Also owned perhaps 12-13 XP 100's over the years, many were custom rigs for Silhouette shooting or hunting, both big & same game.
However I did have one very odd malfunction with one while shooting rock chucks one day a few years back. I had fired perhaps 12-1500 rounds through this gun over a 3-4 year period & never had a previous problem of any kind.
On this day me & a friend were set up shooting & I had my sandbags setting on the rack of my 4 wheeler & I was sitting on a stool & had already taken several rock chucks with my 223 Ackley Imp. As I went to fire another round the gun didn't fire, the firing pin was already forward, it had went forward when I closed the bolt.I noticed the bolt was in the fired position by looking at the rear of the shroud. I set there for a few seconds, perhaps 20, trying to figure out what had happened, or not happened.
My buddy was sitting to my right about 5-6 feet & he looked at me & asked what was going on & I said my gun didn't fire. I raised the gun off the sandbags & turned it to my left towards some trees & just started to lift the bolt & it fired! This was with the firing pin already down! The bolt hadn't moved 1/4" & was still in the lug recesses. My 4 wheeler was facing left to right so I could shoot off of the rear rack & the bullet caught just the edge of my plastic wind shield, damn it! I looked at the case, no problem, took the bolt out, no problem, racked the bolt 8-10 times & it cocked every time & dry fired every time, just like it had done for thousands of rounds.
I took another loaded round, chambered it, held it more to the left & closed the bolt & the bolt followed the round forward again, just like it had been fired. So now the firing pin is down on the primer, just like the first time, very odd. I hold the gun for several seconds to see if perhaps it could be a hang fire, nothing happens. I start to raise the bolt & it goes off again, bang! I'm done! Again the bolt hasn't moved 1/4" & the firing pin is sitting against the primer when it goes off, no firing spring tension to drive it forward, it's already forward.
I go home & take the bolt assembly apart & clean everything although it doesn't look all that bad & head to the shooting range. So far I've never been able to duplicate that problem.... or explain it.

Dick

I wonder how many of those "took my safety off to unload" had their damned index finger inside the triggerguard when they pushed the safety forward.

Remington trigger issues: 99% media hysteria & lawyer-driven lawsuits; 1% piss-poor gun handling / filthy guns / bubba-ed trigger adjustments, etc., etc..

http://www.thetacticalwire.com/story/396832

The Remington response to the 60 minutes story.

I best check all mine.

Source or did you not read all the literature our there that even Remington acknowledges (not to mention that pesky recall..again), including personal experiences from many folks here

Is English your second language?

As a matter of fact it is,what's yours? and POS smells the same in any language..

It was a serious question, so don't get all butthurt and whiney...

Then you should work on syntax, as it came across as insulting. Accordingly, if you asked in that spirit, I apologize.

No need to apologize. I have my big boy pants on and I expect others here to be likewise.

ok

This^^^, and, exactly.

It's just an opinion, Jorge. I've had my own experiences with Remington triggers, read plenty on the subject, and heard the stories, here and elsewhere.

I've seen a lot of back and forth and BS'ing about this over the years, but I haven't seen any explanations of what is wrong with their triggers or how they are different from others. Is it a design flaw or just poor manufacturing? What makes a Timney so much better?

Jerry

Noted and respected. J