I've been out of pocket today so please excuse me if my question/remark is impertinent to today's discussion but I've wondered if Judas was saved. I don't see how he could have been more sorry and repentant for what he did. He went back and told the ones who hired him how wrong he was, threw their money back at them, and then he was so distraught he went out and hung himself.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
