Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
Originally Posted by southtexas


According to the Winchester website the M70 FWTs in 30/06 and 300WSM both weigh 7lbs. The WSM is 1.5" longer due to its 24" bbl.

The higher velocity of the WSM (180gr Power Points) results it about 2" less drop at 300 yards. So for the vast majority of hunters, what is the advantage?

Oh, perhaps the advantage is the 20% increase in recoil?

Let's see if you an respond without childish insults...



Short actions are lighter. That's just a fact. The WSM also saves you on EFFECTIVE barrel length because the length that covers the case is wasted. So It is lighter both for the barrel and the action. Those are basic facts which anyone should be able to understand.

Drop is irrelevant. Buy a rangefinder. The reason you shoot a faster round is to reduce your windage and therefore susceptibility to wind call error and to extend the range of reliable expansion.

If you are looking for reduced recoil buy a 6mm Creedmoor.


Gotta admit, one thing you are good at is splitting hairs. The significant difference in weight of a short action??? Can't be too much if the FWT M70 weighs the same in both cartridges.

And the increased EFFECTIVE barrel length?? Try measuring what the the difference in MV means in drop (or wind deflection) at "normal" ranges in the real world, in hunting conditions.

You could use either cartridge for a lifetime of hunting and never notice a difference in effectiveness in the real world.