bsa, thanks again....will be looking for someone on here to turn one loose. That would get it down to close to 7 lbs or so. I would just hope it would not be so light that it would not shoot like it does now. This gun will shoot about anything I throw it, and don't want to mess it up over few ozs. I bought it when they came out about 94 I believe, still have the box and all the paper work also have a Winchester 1994 catalog that came with it....looks like it just came out of the store. I traded a 70's push feed walnut for it....it was a shooter too. Killed many deer with it. They allowed me a good price for it so I got a Classic for a steal at today prices. Have often wondered who bought that push feed...wish I had kept it. Bought it out of trunk of a guys car at local Short Stop for $125 believe it was. Also bought a 70's Redfield Low profile 3 x 9 off him that was on that gun till I traded it. Been a Winchester guy all my life.