byc is a travelling BBQ tourney guy hitting places like "Memphis in May" and the like. He sent me some of his rubs and they are superb. He and Pat will have a good old time at the BBQ pit, if that were to happen.
Pat always had a good crowd around him, though. He's that likable even though a white shirt with a badge!
Pat, I have never met him. He's older time LEO. The good guy but can get mean if called on to get mean and a good cook I hear.