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Good to hear on the Scenar. Looking forward to more on game results from our hunting group.
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Excellent way of explaining it, so many people can't be objective when it come to bullet performance and realistically look at their strengths and weaknesses. For me the regular Accubond is just fine, I don't really shoot much out where the ABLR would make a difference. penetration on elk would be my concern--long(er) range being for me 500yds ish 500 yards and in is not long range. That is within the expansion window of regular Accubonds. The whole point of ABLR's is to reliably upset at low velocities when other bullets won't. The "bonding" is to help the bullet penetrate enough in case a close shot is taken. A better way looking at it is- Regular Accubond: optimized for mid to high velocity at close to moderate range , while having an expansion threshold low enough to cover the vast majority of shots. They are a 0-500 yard or so bullet. Accubond Long Range- optimized for mid to low velocity at long range, while offering just enough penetration for an unplanned close range shot. They are optimized for past 400 yards.
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Bob, If you want some 7mm Berger Hunting VLDs in 180 and/or 168, I'm your huckleberry. Besides I can't use the 350 Rems you gave me.
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Scenar 180 HPBT.....9.0" penetration. Same as the Nosler Partition. It flattened out to 1.6" and 75 grains.
Well that just cant be..Its a target bullet!
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Scenar 180 HPBT.....9.0" penetration. Same as the Nosler Partition. It flattened out to 1.6" and 75 grains.
Well that just cant be..Its a target bullet! That was an annealed bullet, too.
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A famous bear hunter from Montana sent me some BITTERROOT 175's to try out as well.
They penetrated a full 12" with a perfect mushroom at 184 grains.
imo, the best performance of all.
Jeff, I would love to try some 180 VLD's.
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I'd be interested to see how the 168gr LRX stacks up.
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SU35 A famous bear hunter from Montana sent me some BITTERROOT 175's to try out as well.
They penetrated a full 12" with a perfect mushroom at 184 grains.
imo, the best performance of all. I need some of those bullets that gain weight after impact !
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Oops my typo!
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A famous bear hunter from Montana sent me some BITTERROOT 175's to try out as well.
They penetrated a full 12" with a perfect mushroom at 184 grains.
imo, the best performance of all.
Jeff, I would love to try some 180 VLD's.
That does sound great it gained 9 gr  seriously that does sound like a really good bullet, too bad no one is making them anymore would have love to try them.
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A 175gn Woodleigh Weldcore is as close as you will find I guess.....
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A 175gn Woodleigh Weldcore is as close as you will find I guess..... Probably, you could also add the Norma Oryx to also being close to them.
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Kodiak Bullets by Alaska Bullet works perform very close to the Bitterroot. Tapered and bonded gilded metal jackets but seems to have a higher copper content than most. Very similar to the Woodleigh in performance too.
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A famous bear hunter from Montana sent me some BITTERROOT 175's to try out as well.
They penetrated a full 12" with a perfect mushroom at 184 grains.
imo, the best performance of all.
Jeff, I would love to try some 180 VLD's.
From a batch I sent to Dober. Had them over 20+ years but never ran them into anything. The 160's did so well I never got around to them. Glad Bob finally ran them into something. I have a stash. Based on this I may load them for a planned moose hunt this fall. Not surprised at all with the results. Seen it too many times in other weights/calibers and on animals.If I wanted something similar today I would try the Northfork. The Partition no surprise; the Sierra IS a surprise. Good test Bob thanks for posting all this up.
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I'd be interested to see how the 168gr LRX stacks up. I'm curious also although the 168gr LRX's won't stabilize in my rifle (older Rem classic). ![[Linked Image]](http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww43/scoutandyukon/cbc8c5b7-8b43-42dc-9c15-f8556643684f_zpskytso0mo.png)
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From a batch I sent to Dober. Had them over 20+ years but never ran them into anything. The 160's did so well I never got around to them. Glad Bob finally ran them into something.
I have a stash. Based on this I may load them for a planned moose hunt this fall.
I hope you do use them. Incredible bullet. I have more test coming up, (Battle of the 7mm 120's) but have blown to bits all my dry media/print. Mainly by the 35 cals punching wide holes. btw, I tested the Northfork 35/225 against the Sierra 35/225 GK. They penetrated the same, 10", but the NF holding together at 145 grains with the Sierra losing its core. Not like it mattered at they both did the same amount of damage. Next day I bought some Sierra's...... also I will text pics of bullets to anyone who PM's me a #
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Any scenes in the wet media yet, Bob?
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Not yet, collecting more print to shoot.
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Any pictures of the 175 BBC's?
Those things should bring the pain train to any animal here on our continent.
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