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If only because you are amazingly fhuqking stupid:


snipper,

I've thus far PLAINLY stated .224" 32,40,50,55,60 and 75 Hornie Max's. Cheer up...as I've shot lotsa 33 and 35 grain Max's too,in both Hornet and K-Hornet.

Your gross inability to keep pace,will only come as a "surprise" to you. Bless your heart.

You'll haveta' pardon my being afforded the luxury,of not being forced to guess.

Hint.

Laughing!

.243" 58gr 'Max at 4000fps+ 243AI well inside the 50yd line. Exited and was a real Heart Breaker.

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.224 75gr 'Max,not an hour later in the day at 3150fps.

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18" Middie 62TSX at 3000fps.

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You gals REALLY get after it and are a Treasure Trove of firsthand "information". I'm fhuqking cryin',I'm laughing sooooooooooooooooooo fhuqking hard!

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Originally Posted by Orville
Hi new to the forum and have a new bushmaster ORC carbine with Telestock. Has anyone here shot a deer with a 55 grain Vmax? I was going to take a deer this year and wondered if these would work. My bushmaster shoots them pretty good about 2 inches at 100 meters. It does not shoot other heavier bullets as well. I have a Buris E1 3x9x40 in a buris pepper mount on it. Is this a good choice?


While fine for turkey or coyotes this round is far too lite as noted by others for deer (save head shots at close range).

IF your rifle will not shoot 70grn Barnes Triple-Shoks I suggest ya try Barnes 60grn Triple-Shoks or Winchester 64grn PowerPoints as they may be more to liking of your twist rate. (70grn TSX needs a 1/8 or 1/7 twist)

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Originally Posted by DwnRange
I suggest ya try Barnes 60grn Triple-Shoks


Guess again....

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Originally Posted by Montivigant
Originally Posted by DwnRange
I suggest ya try Barnes 60grn Triple-Shoks


Guess again....



Yeah...you guys are a stitch...


Barnes doesn't make a 60 gr. TSX....


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1 grain, 2 grains... some folks are having a hard time dealing with the summer heat....


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Must be...traditionally rifle loonies are anal retentive about details...


Course, it might be that some guys aren't true loonies. grin


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well then, when I get anal I weigh my bullets rather than trusting what a box says.. LOL.

Still wonder sometimes how bullets ended up at 62 or 52/53 or 68/69, 73, 117, and so on.... like throwing a dart...

Probably why I've lately started to use the "ish" part..

Shoot a 170ish bullet and you'll be in the ball park...

Gotta get rolling... heat warning out today. Need to get out of the office before this afternoon rolls around.


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oh yeha, I'm not a loony, just a nut.


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Originally Posted by rost495

Still wonder sometimes how bullets ended up at 62 or 52/53 or 68/69, 73, 117, and so on.... like throwing a dart...


Before the days of 3D CAD systems, someone aimed for a round #, like 70gr or 170gr, then built an expensive set of form dies. The first bullets popped out at 69gr or 168gr, and they said heck no we're not remaking the die, tell folks we optimized the weight. grin


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Makes sense to me. Just pure swag on the design and then here is what it turned out to be.

I was thinking more that they copied another caliber bullet excatly, but up or down sized it and whatever the weight, was the weight.

Funny that the match bullets can be weird but you rarely see weird in hunting, save for the 117s in 25 cal that I can think of of the top of my head.


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Some may be metric conversions too. An 8 gram bullet is 123 grains, 9g is 139gr, etc.

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I've shot several deer using the 55 gr V-max out of a .223 carbine, 16.5" bolt gun. I'm getting .5" average groups at 100yards with my hand loads. It is the same load that I worked up for my DPMS carbine and it works equally well in my bolt gun. They do the job on average sized whitetail just fine. All shots in the engine room just behind the shoulder. Ribs aren't tough to break on deer,even with a "varmint" bullet.

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People are funny critters.
The 25-06 is not big enough for deer but a .224 is perfect.
I have met people who think 25-06 is good for elk
and others say .270 is not big enough.
I decided to find a box of 225 gr. XFB Barnes bullets to see if they are big enough for deer or not. I will let you guys know ASAP.
I will try these in a 22" barrel Remington 700 Classic 35 Whelen.
If not I may cut a few inches off the barrel to slow them down.
Somebody told me that bullets go through deer so fast that they didn't have "time to expand".
I guess that is why you see so many short barreled carbines. They figure they need to give the bullets plenty of time.
Maybe I should cut off a foot from my .220 Swift. Yuck Yuck.
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I heard that is how they make gunpowder. They test it after it is finished and then decide to label it according to how it finished.

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Originally Posted by whelennut
People are funny critters.
The 25-06 is not big enough for deer but a .224 is perfect.
I have met people who think 25-06 is good for elk
and others say .270 is not big enough.
I decided to find a box of 225 gr. XFB Barnes bullets to see if they are big enough for deer or not. I will let you guys know ASAP.
I will try these in a 22" barrel Remington 700 Classic 35 Whelen.
If not I may cut a few inches off the barrel to slow them down.
Somebody told me that bullets go through deer so fast that they didn't have "time to expand".
I guess that is why you see so many short barreled carbines. They figure they need to give the bullets plenty of time.
Maybe I should cut off a foot from my .220 Swift. Yuck Yuck.
Whelennut


225s will work. Have taken quite a few with a 338 Win Mag and 225s, though the 210s seemed to be even better for deer. TSX though and then TTSX as I recall.


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Originally Posted by brinky72
I've shot several deer using the 55 gr V-max out of a .223 carbine, 16.5" bolt gun. I'm getting .5" average groups at 100yards with my hand loads. It is the same load that I worked up for my DPMS carbine and it works equally well in my bolt gun. They do the job on average sized whitetail just fine. All shots in the engine room just behind the shoulder. Ribs aren't tough to break on deer,even with a "varmint" bullet.


You need to join the 24 hour challenge match in the AR forum!!!


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Originally Posted by whelennut
People are funny critters.
The 25-06 is not big enough for deer but a .224 is perfect.
I have met people who think 25-06 is good for elk
and others say .270 is not big enough.
I decided to find a box of 225 gr. XFB Barnes bullets to see if they are big enough for deer or not. I will let you guys know ASAP.
I will try these in a 22" barrel Remington 700 Classic 35 Whelen.
If not I may cut a few inches off the barrel to slow them down.
Somebody told me that bullets go through deer so fast that they didn't have "time to expand".
I guess that is why you see so many short barreled carbines. They figure they need to give the bullets plenty of time.
Maybe I should cut off a foot from my .220 Swift. Yuck Yuck.
Whelennut



Those 225's are way to big for deer. They will never expand. .35 caliber hole in, .35 caliber hole out. Unless of course you like to shoot your deer the long way, then it's just the right size.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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225 X does not need anything much to make it expand.

I wont' blow a big hole, but I"ve never not seen the 338 version at least be double the entry hole for the exit hole in size.

I'd have to assume a 35 cal can't be any different.

But the exit wont' be like a ballistic tip exit...


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Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by brinky72
I've shot several deer using the 55 gr V-max out of a .223 carbine, 16.5" bolt gun. I'm getting .5" average groups at 100yards with my hand loads. It is the same load that I worked up for my DPMS carbine and it works equally well in my bolt gun. They do the job on average sized whitetail just fine. All shots in the engine room just behind the shoulder. Ribs aren't tough to break on deer,even with a "varmint" bullet.


You need to join the 24 hour challenge match in the AR forum!!!


That sounds like I'd have to be around people entirely too long. No thanks.


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