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G5 Montec or Slick Trick
Which is the better head ?
Sharpest out of the box
Easiest to sharpen
Best blood trail
Most durable

From a cost standpoint the slick trick wins because it has interchangeable parts. I say it wins most durable because of this.

Sharpness out of the box. ..... Which box? Some Slick tricks are sticky scary sharp. So are montecs. Sometimes they need a bit of work. My opinion is they are equal on this

Best blood trail depends more on POI then either one of these heads. When they are both properly sharp I say this is a coin toss.

Easiest to sharpen Hmmmm The three blade montec is pretty easy with the correct stone angle. The Slick trick is easy because you can take them apart and sharpen each blade.

The tip of the Slick trick is just about impossible to damage on an animal, the montec tip can, and will bend over with a bone hit. I say the Slick trick with a slight edge here.

In my heart I like cut on contact heads like the montec. However my wallet likes the interchangeable chisel tips of the Slick tricks. If they both shot exactly the same from my bow It would be a tough choice. Fortunately the slick tricks are the best shooting head I have ever used. They hit 100% exactly the same as my field tips and have really made an impression on all the animals I have shot with them. The Montecs did not shoot as well from my bow, so they were not used as much.

If they were the only head available to me I would not be unhappy or feel handicapped one bit. They really are great heads and should work as well as the Slick tricks if they shoot good from your bow. They are kinda spendy though!

Well put JJ +1

JJ

Have experience with ST and elk? Doesn't flinch use them on elk?

I may be forced to hunt elk with a bow again in the future, as much as I like Zwickey for penetration-- if ya'll have had good luck with ST vs ribs and bones and good penetration, thats the way I'll go instead of the G5s.

Jeff

I've heard more than once that the Montec is loud. Either a louder than normal hiss or whistle. Never heard that about a slick trick. CD

If you could just buy the Slick Trick. I was going to try the Slick Trick this season but the factory couldn't supply the demand. I guess that is the problem with being popular. Until Slick Trick can supply the demand it is a mute point.

On another note, vented blades can be quieted with simple layer of scotch tape over the vents. Has not affected flight on snuffers or other larger heads out to about 30 yards which is all as far as I care to shoot.

Jeff

My hunting partner was looking for a new broadhead to try. I had a Montec G5 on my practice arrow in camp. He stood behind a large spruce down range from me and I shot the target. He claimed that the broadhead was quiet. I'd have to agree. I've never heard a whistle or any buzzing or anything different than a target arrow. The first G5s had squared off rear edges and I had 3 of those. The next few I bought were beveled and they are quiet.

I have Razorcaps too and they are also not noisy. The only noisy heads I've heard lately are my partner's old Thunderheads. His are nearly old enough to be made of flint though.

I have killed 4 elk with the Slick Tricks and a pile of deer. Nothing I have ever tried has left a more impressive blood trail, or lead to quicker deaths. Nearly every critter drops withing a few yards.

The elk I killed a couple of weeks ago (large spike bull) dropped with a quartering away 35 yard lung shot from a Slick Trick. He took 3 steps and fell over backwards dead.

The other kills have been VERY quick compared to equal hits with ANY 3 blade head. The Slick Tricks are by far the most accurate head I have shot as well, and sport 4 blades.

No broadhead goes through heavy bone. It doesn't matter what the advertisements say. Most go through deer shoulders okay, but elk ......NEVER gonna happen, unless you hit the thin edges of the scapula or ribs.

I wacked a big 3x4 muley this year at 8 yards in the neck facing me. I was shooting 100 grain Innerlocks at 276 fps. Of course the buck dropped in his tracks with a broken neck and severed spinal cord, but all the blades were bend and broken off, which is normal with this kind of shot with any broadhead. The tip of the Innerlock head was sticking out of the backside of the vertibra in tact. This is the best penetrating head I have ever shot, but again, it goes to show that no broad head is going to penetrate heavy bone. If that head at that speed won't do it, no head will, although we keep trying <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I have designed and engineered a 4 blad all steel broadhead that will be on the market in the next couple of months. Slick Tricks and Montechs beware <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Flinch

I accidently hit an elk in the spine, dead center in the L3 vertebra with a Montec G5 at 20 yards with an initial velocity of 272 fps last year. That vertebra is sitting on my kitchen counter right now and the broadhead is visible in it if you look in the spinal cord channel. The only other part you can see is the insert covered by the last bit of shaft where it snapped off and it's sticking out of the bone by about a quarter inch. The broadhead is intact with the tip buried in the far side of the spinal canal up to the point where the vents in the blades start. I haven't gotten out my calipers to measure how much bone got penetrated nor have I taken a digital picture of it to post yet but I will in a while and post the information.


I shot a small cow elk at 25 yards a few years ago. It was an uphill shot and I ended up pinning both shoulder blades together with the arrow. That means complete penetration of one scapula with enough energy to make a pretty good stick on the second one on the way out. I recovered the broadhead, that time a Wasp Hammer SST 100 grain with part of the shaft where she fell about 40 yards from where I shot her. That broadhead and shaft are on a shelf in my bedroom, it's also intact despite being shoved through two elk scapula and the ribs under each.

I'm shooting razor caps for a while and I'll see how they perform when I get a shot at an animal. I didn't get that chance this elk season and it looks like the late deer season is off of the table due to family commitments...so next year. I expect similar performance with maybe slight improvement in penetration due to the steeper slicing angle of the blade.

The reason I don't sound like a commercial for one brand of head over another is that the actual performance differences I've seen are very slight. All good quality broadheads are lethal and hold up to the job just like all good quality bullets do. If you pay 89 cents for a broadhead I wouldn't expect it to hold together or even fly all that well. The heads with more engineering expertise in the design and quality in manufacturing will hold up.

Blood trails are good or bad due to a combination of factors, some of which are due to broadhead characteristics and some aren't. The sharpness of the cutting edge, if there is an exit as well as entrance wound, and that size of the wound channel are probably the biggest influences the broadhead makes. I don't think that a difference in wound channel size of .125 inches is going to be a big deal.

Having a scalpel sharp edge, which I've never seen on any cutting edge on any tool or broadhead I've ever bought, will make a large difference since the rougher the cutting edge the more rapidly the clotting with happen.

Every broadhead I've seen, either of ones I've bought or that friends have bought had tool or grind marks on the cutting edge. What that gives you is a mini serrated edge that cuts more like a saw than a knife and it allows for more rapid clotting than something with a mirror like surface you'd see on a properly sharpened edge. That's why I sharpen every head, every knife, and every cutting tool I buy.

A leather strop with chrome polish or a good smooth ceramic makes a good edge. I've yet to see a stone or diamond hone that quite pulls it off.

The G5's Montec's whistled from my set up.Pro at the archery shop agreed and said one custumer called it "the whistle of death"

Penetration wise I've never seen anything like the big 2 bladed Zwickey heads. The ones withotu the bleeder cutouts. Those will split on you. But a solid 2 blade with a long insert and sharpened correctly will amaze. I've never had an elk shoulder blade to shoot at but we did shoot an almost 400 pound hog with shields that were measured at(not counting actual skin and hair etc...) 3.60 inches appx with a caliper. 18 yard shot, caught the tail of one scapula and the only thing that caught for a no pass through was the fletching was snagged by a broken rib on the way out.

Anyway like I said, I'm after a bit larger hole, no issues with snuffers lately BUT want something a bit flatter if I'm forced after elk with a bow.

Must be time to order finally and see how long the wait is.

Flinch- and all, thanks for the input!

Jeff

I shot a big 4 pointer, on thur. morning Whitetail that is, 23 yrds, quatering a way, 62lbs went thru rib on into the chest hit inside of left front shoulder, did not shoot thru, saw deer run off with arrow sticking out thought I made a bad hit, found blood where deer was standing let sit for 2hrs. very good blood trail for one hole deer dead at about 70yrds, I was very inpressed with the slick trick heads, no damage to the head, and sharpened back up fine , ready for another deer.

It was only a 62lb deer?

I'm pretty sure you must mean the draw weight, but thats not how I read it.

I killed three wild hogs, all males all with gristle plate with the same head. They have thick blade and resharpen nice. The fourth hog was a pass through and I was never able to get the arrow. I could see an impact point from the arrow in the snow out on a frozen pond. The ice was questionable and not worth the risk of breaking through. Wish I could have gotten that head back because I have never shot four animals with the exact same head and blades before. I wonder how many more animals I could have taken. Although deer are 99% of the time a pass through, hogs elk and bears I get arrows back much of the time.

Anyway that's definately getting your monies worth from a broadhead!

Hey, I'm gonna do the slick tricks for sure if I have to use my bow for elk.

As to reusing a head, non replaceable, back to Zwickey-- We've had an easy 6+ kills or more, I just forgot what our "record" was.

On Muzzy my wife has only managed to use the same head an blades 5 times till a hog managed to snap an arrow and we never could find the head end.

Jeff

The bows lbs was set at 62lbs, I once used the same thunderhead 150 on 5 deer, but lost it on # 5.

Montec G5 100 grain broadhead in L3 vertebra of a 5x6 elk I killed last year. He wasn't huge so I'm guessing he was 3 1/2 years old or so.






I got the calipers out. The thickest part penetrated was .650" and that would be the blade that about the 4 O'clock position. The thinnest part I could reach was .350" and it's between the two other blades. The bottom most blade cut a furrow in that lateral process at least 1.85" long and that's why part of it is missing.

I should have gotten another head out to see how much the tip penetrated the other side but I was in a hurry as I had to leave for work.

Steel, thanks for the picture. That is indeed impressive penetration to say the least. I have seen a lot of similar pictures. Let me clarify my statement about broadheads not penetrating bone. They definitely go into bone, but they won't go through heavy bone on elk sized critters..scapulas are not heavy bone, unless the head hits more towards the joint. Does that make sense? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I really like spine and neck shots with archery tackle, due to instant kills, depending on shot angle. Many heads simply are not up to the task, but there definitely are half a dozen or so that are. Great photo. Flinch

Flinch

If you go to Slick Tricks web site they have a rib from a Cape buffalo( looks like a 2X4) that was completely penetrated by the slick trick and took him down pretty quick.