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They are only available from Bob Beck at the Extreme Outer Limits (EOL) Extreme Store and they will have them available again Sept 28th, the best thing to do is order now or they will be sold out before that date like the first shipment, by the time the prepaid orders were shipped it was over !

http://www.extremestore.us/berger-e...284-diameter-195-grain-match-box-of-100/


More info from Berger .......

http://www.bergerbullets.com/7mm-195gr-eol-elite-hunter-testing/

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cool, I"ll try to get that done before we fly out for AK.

If not, I'll get on the next one after that, no time to hunt that gun this year anyway but having em for spring testing would be nice.


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Tell me about the 375 Warlord

What action is needed? Also what will the ballistics be?


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I need to get some for my 7-30 Waters.


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Originally Posted by teal
I need to get some for my 7-30 Waters.


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Originally Posted by firstcoueswas80
Wow.... 3300 with a 195.... Wow!


With a 30" barrel.

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Might as well maximize the cartridge.


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Yep. I've heard it said that barrel length is the only free lunch you get. I remember years ago that a poster named Flinch (I believe my memory is correct) had an 06 built with a 27" barrel He was getting some impressive velocities with just standard 06 loads.

I guess I'm just a product of my rasin. Being form South GA, anything with a barrel over 22" is a...spear. grin

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Yep. I've heard it said that barrel length is the only free lunch you get. I remember years ago that a poster named Flinch (I believe my memory is correct) had an 06 built with a 27" barrel He was getting some impressive velocities with just standard 06 loads.

I guess I'm just a product of my rasin. Being form South GA, anything with a barrel over 22" is a...spear. grin


Especially on over bore cartridges. The more overbore, the more a longer barrel seems to help. There is a reason old Roy liked his 26-28" barrels.


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Does anybody know where to find some load data for these at?
I'm guessing tech support from Berger?

I have an 8 twist 7 mag that I picked these up for and anxious to try out.


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I'd suggest contacting Berger directly. I just got some info on 140 and 168 for the 280 AI from Bob Blaine there and it was extremely helpful.

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So I did call Berger and Corey was awesome!!!

Super informative and very very helpful.

Thanks Corey!!!


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Could you post what he told you? I'd be interested, as well...

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[quote=Jordan Smith]Could you post what he told you? I'd be interested, as well...

So what Corey told me is there is several powders that works, but I only asked about these.

Min Max Velocity
RL25 60.0-63.1 2750'
H1000 62.0-65.2 2750'
Retumbo 65.0-68.4 2800'

COAL is 3.409" as any shorter and the ogive would be inside the case neck
And there test barrel was 26" long

I loaded up Retumbo as that is my favorite powder with the 180's now, but I have not shot them yet. I just need the wind to lay down this weekend. I'll report back how things turn out. Also I seated out to the lands, 3.526" and there is still plenty of room left in my mag box.


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If I could get 2800 out of my 7mm RM, at 11,000 altitude the ballistics are pretty funny. May have to try a box. Think an 8.5 twist rock has a chance at spinning them enough?

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That should work! Though I'd go 8" if given the chance..

LKEYES- thanks!

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Might need to extend the throat in my 7-08 grin

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Slightly blurry, but a 195 Hybrid next to a 162AM... whistle

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Thoughts on the low end velocity to still get expansion? Picking up a box Saturday for giggles.

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
That should work! Though I'd go 8" if given the chance..

LKEYES- thanks!



I talked with Berger directly on this. They said a 9 twist is fine. It says right on the box as well.



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