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Yes. There will be experimentation..... grin


Don't really want or need more speed, the 55s were perfect...but....I like messing with gun stuff!


Im thinking of building a pretty plain jane .223 and make it a dedicated light load rifle....easy to get brass for and performance difference between that and an AI or a deuce is negligible .....light load-wise anyway...


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At those speeds, you could use the bullets made for the 22 Hornet. Not sure you'd have to but it's always good to have options so when you start messin' with your rifles, you have additional data points to fill.


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True enough! I went with the Horn 55s, convincing myself it was the thing to do cause they are the cheapest and I have a zillion on hand....


Now...off to experiment with others! laugh

I feel like such a gun/reloading slut....


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That's because you are...
And so also are many of us.


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Duh..... grin


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just sayin'


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you boys are discovering what I have been enjoying for years now....these powders can also give a good life to a bolt 223 or 22.250 that have had the barrel shot out....

these type of powders and velocities still give them pretty decent accuracy....

55 FMJs would be my choice for Bugs Bunnies...

but for other stuff, plastic tip 40 grainers are awfully effective at 22 mag style velocities...

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How about 50 grain plastic tips?

I got a deal on Zombie Max.....


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Just a little more of a good thing....

I've got a 1000 or so of them also...

just FYI for those following this...my load reference indicate with say 4227 and 4198, a charge in the 12 to 15 grain range, give pretty much the same velocity in the 223, 222 Mag and the 22.250, along with the 224 Weatherby and 225 Winchester...

useful info if one has a 22.250 etc, hanging around and might be possessing a worn barrel....

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this is an excellent thread and one that I'm learning much from. Thanks to all.


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Originally Posted by ingwe

I feel like such a gun/reloading slut....

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Originally Posted by Seafire
Just a little more of a good thing....

I've got a 1000 or so of them also...

just FYI for those following this...my load reference indicate with say 4227 and 4198, a charge in the 12 to 15 grain range, give pretty much the same velocity in the 223, 222 Mag and the 22.250, along with the 224 Weatherby and 225 Winchester...

useful info if one has a 22.250 etc, hanging around and might be possessing a worn barrel....


John, Ive got a .22-250...not with a worn barrel...but pretty well languishing, and it needs to get out! grin


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I use Trail Boss with the 190's in my .308. Makes an UBER sub-sonic load.

Much prefer TB to Blue Dot. I'm not a real "details" kinda guy and TB makes it more difficult to blow up my guns.



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Kinda why I liked TB right away...hard to phouc up....


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Heres another load...

50 Grain V-Max or Z-Max and 8.0 gr. Trail Boss...



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Originally Posted by ingwe
Heres another load...

50 Grain V-Max or Z-Max and 8.0 gr. Trail Boss...



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Ok,

That's respectable.


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I think I have a container of TB in my cabinet. Was going to load up some blue dot for 223 to bring death to tree rats. May have to try both for a little comparison. I like using a "real" rifle for small game. Keeps the feeling the same come deer season.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
I went with the Horn 55s, convincing myself it was the thing to do cause they are the cheapest and I have a zillion on hand....


And they are on sale as blems at Midway for probably way cheaper than any of us have paid in a long time. Stock up!

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Couldnt find them on their website! cry


Link please!!!!!


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Cheaper than Trailboss, and very consistent in small amounts in large cases, is Titegroup. Hodgdon lists 3.1gr at 4k CUP with 55fmj in 223 for 1064. You can go up from there. Slowly. Really impressive stuff in cartridges as small as 17 Fireball and 22 Hornet, on up through very reduced cast loads in 30-06.


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