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Does anyone have any experience with the Berger Hybrid for hunting? I know Berger says for target only. It will be a 185 out of a .300 Win mag. I am currently using a 190 SMK.

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I am using 6mm 105 hybrids for hunting. Have shot several deer an antelope and bunches of coyotes. They really expand well and do a lot of internal damage. They are comparable to lapua scenars in how they expand. They are softer than Sierra match kings, and open up better. They are very accurate as well. I know you were looking for 30 cal.info, but I bet you will find the characteristics to be the same.

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Thanks, atse. Good to know.


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185gr Juggernaut. Entrance behind left shoulder mid body, exit as shown. Right at 2,300fps impact velocity.



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I would suggest you use the 215 in your 300 win mag. Read this long thread with excellent details on this bullet’s performance and I think you will agree. To date Broz’s rifle has killed 31 animals, a mixed bag of elk antelope and deer.Thanks to Jeff (Broz) for this thread. This is where the documented killing begins in this very long thread:

http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/comparing-berger-210-vld-215-hybrid-88657/index14.html





Jeff’s recent comment what bullet to use with the 300 win mag:

Re: Best high bc bullet for 300wm for elk


Well here is what I use. The 215 Berger Hybrid. Right now my 300 win is at 31 and 0 for first round kills on big game out to 1300 yards. Mostly elk. I trust this bullet to help me place it well with its high BC and have had good expansion down to impact velocity of 1700 fps on soft antelope. I logged the first 20 or so kills with documentation in this thread.
Comparing the Berger 210 VLD to the 215 Hybrid (Entire thread linked above)

With 300 win muzzle velocities at around 3000 fps, don't expect exits to be common on elk until you get past 5 to 600 yards. However you may have some at the very close distances too. In that thread you can see for yourself the terminal damage that is most common to vitals. I place the bullet behind the front shoulder in the crease just below center mass and they don't go far at all.

I do inspect all the tips on my hunting rounds to be open all the way back to the lead which is about .400" with the 215. But I find very few that are clogged on the 215's. Still worth checking though. I use a small pin vice and wire drill. But a pin would also work for a quick check.

The short bearing surface of the Berger Hybrid should allow very good velocity from the 300 win. With H-1000 I have seen several with 26" barrels go 2950. 28" barrels at or just over 3000.

I want the bullet that will increase my odds all it can at the longer pokes , yet still get the job done at the closer shots. This is a hard combo to come up with and there are no perfect bullets to do all jobs. But the 215 works well for me and I have not had one failure. This year we hosted a management hunt for elk on the ranch I manage. We too 60+ elk during this season. Mostly with Berger Hybrids either 300 grain or 215. The results and terminal performance were great.

Look that thread over and see if the terminal performance of the 215 is suitable for your personal needs.

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When I get to that 200 gr. mark it gets a little punchy for my tastes..and I hate a muzzle brake. I am also using H1000 with 28" barrel. About 2900 with 190's. I might try and find some anyway, last I checked I didn't have any luck locating any.


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I shot an antelope buck at 550 yards this year with a 215 hybrid from my 300 wsm. MV of only 2800. It worked very well, dropped in its tracks with about a 2" diameter exit. I used the 208 amax last year on a 4x5 mule deer at 283 yards and didn't get an exit on a lung shot. No heavy bone hit. I think I'd be more comfortable with the 215 hybrid on elk than I would the 208 amax.

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They make a 185 Classic Hunter that is the same as a Juggernaut with a thinner jacket

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The 185gr Classic is not the same as the Juggernauts.

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