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Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.
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Wouldn't any receiver sight for a M-S have to pivot to allow the bolt handle to pass through the split rear receiver bridge?
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That's what I thought. I briefly looked through one store's shop copy of Stroeble's, "Old Gun Sights" and didn't see this one. This friend of mine is always coming up with unusual stuff. It sure looks like the same mounting system for a MS but I don't have another 36 around to compare other than what I can find in internet pictures. I think I'll take it to the gun show today and ask a few of the guys I know who are likely to have some info on this sight.
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Don't see any Lyman markings on this sight nor any markings at all. May not be a Lyman sight, also it is not uncommon to find incorrect sights in boxes. Just because the box is marked Model 36 does not necessarily mean that the sight inside is in fact a Model 36. Has anyone looked in the "Old Gunsights" books to try to identify this sight. Sight dealers Gary Fellers or Ken Bean or sight guru Nick Stroebel might be able to identify it if you were to e-mail them a pic, worth a try.
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I had considered that it might be a different sight in a 36 box but the mounting system looks like that of a standard 36, at least as close as I can tell from internet pictures. I did get a quick look a couple days ago at Stroebel's book but didn't have time to really peruse it as it was the store's shop copy. I need to order that book.
Thanks for the sight dealers. I'll contact them.
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I would use a HUGE dose of caution having anything to do with Gary Fellers.
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Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.
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I would use a HUGE dose of caution having anything to do with Gary Fellers. And I thought I was the only one who preached caution when dealing with GF!
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I'm sure that is a Lyman sight, the friction adjustment lever for elevation screams "LYMAN". The fact that it mounts via holes in the top of the sight has me puzzled.
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The 36 actually mounts to the bolt release and the mounting system looks like the one on this sight. 36 bolt release mount
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All I suggested was that GF was asked a question, I've known the guy is a crook for years now.
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I have most of the post-WW1 thru 1970s Lyman catalogs, but they are not well illustrated and without a model #, more difficult to locate. I can't how a rigid, non-flexible, receiver sight would work on a bolt action with a split bridge; M-S, Mosin-Nagant, or Haenel-Mannlicher (88).
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260,
You're right. That's why I posted. It looks like it should mount like a 36 but it wouldn't work with their bolts and receiver. It's puzzling. I'm off to the gun show. Maybe I'll get it figured out.
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I would use a HUGE dose of caution having anything to do with Gary Fellers. And I thought I was the only one who preached caution when dealing with GF!
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Yes Gary tends to forget that most customers were not born yesterday, they're on to his tactic of taking their money and shopping for what he has told them he has. Oldest game there is save but one. I was walking around a gunshow one time with a nice scope in my hand when Mr. Fellers asked to see it. He proceeded to tell me how much he liked "nice things", the temptation to tell him he forgets to pay for them was strong but I bit my lip as he handed my scope back to me. I'm surprised that given his reputation he has any business at all. Guess like PT Barnum said there's a sucker born every minute, good thing for GF.
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Yes Gary tends to forget that most customers were not born yesterday, they're on to his tactic of taking their money and shopping for what he has told them he has. Oldest game there is save but one. I was walking around a gunshow one time with a nice scope in my hand when Mr. Fellers asked to see it. He proceeded to tell me how much he liked "nice things", the temptation to tell him he forgets to pay for them was strong but I bit my lip as he handed my scope back to me. I'm surprised that given his reputation he has any business at all. Guess like PT Barnum said there's a sucker born every minute, good thing for GF.
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I wonder if it would fit on a straight-pull bolt action, like a Steyr M95?
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