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Of course he isnGreg.....until his mommy calls him in for supper

Boy, I've read some pretty stupid dialog on the CF but this thread ranks among the stupidest....

If the autopsy shows a bullet wound to his left side it will raise much suspicion. I'm mildly curious how the fbi can call the video "unedited" but there's a bunch blacked out.

I'm sure they don't consider that edited. ....but it's not 100% accurate and accuracy counts on this one.

RD, While this thread has had it's moments, I feel many responses were thoughtful and considered. Throughout much of this a real discussion is happening. Like lots of threads, you sort of have to read around the inevitable potholes.

Do you think the officer/agent was justified in shooting this man ?

Are you asking me?

I haven't seen enough evidence one way or the other to make that call and see no reason to rush to judgment at this point. Much in the same way nobody'd expect NFL officials to be able to rule on a disputed call with the same quantity and quality of footage, I'm not in a position to make my mind up.

I don't even know who shot and how many times.

Nearly every coat I own has a slash pocket on the inside left since cross draw allows the easiest access in a vehicle

He reached before he was shot and the entire incident was due to his actions alone



To PRETEND he was unarmed?
To put on a show for the media?

Another good reason is a low riding western holster is nearly impossible to draw from when seated in a car, and the gun tends to fall out.

It's just simple logic

Well, this is what I've heard of the incident which I'm sure is what most everyone else has heard as well. Reported that the man they were pursuing had a gun which, in fact he did. He gets out and at first it appeared with his arms up, then for whatever reason starts reaching into his pockets. Now we don't know what was said, but after he reached towards/into his pockets, he was shot. Now, if anyone here were in the same situation and didn't shoot, we would be reading about another LEO shot in the line of duty.

The fact that Bounty Hunter speaks about this guy being "right handed and reached into his left pocket" is so beyond ridiculous it's laughable.

C'mon, RD, he was reaching to plug the first bullet hole with a finger, not for a gun....rolls eyes

I figured his balls itched. If they itch bad enough you don't care about anything else.

go back to the OP. click on the link and read the text below the vid.

it will say:

This is the complete video footage of a joint FBI and Oregon State Police traffic stop and OSP officer-involved shooting of Robert "LaVoy" Finicum along Oregon Highway 395 near milepost 50 in Harney County. This footage, which has only been edited to blur out aircraft information, was taken by the FBI on 01/26/2016 and released by the FBI on 01/28/2016. Note regarding date/time stamp in the left corner of video: Pilots use Zulu Time, also known as Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), when they fly. Zulu time is eight hours ahead of Pacific Standard Time (PST). Therefore, although this footage was taken on January 26, 2016 in Oregon, the date/time stamp on the video shows just after midnight January 27, 2016.

thinking this...
were I looking to fight and kill LEO's i might be inclined to get out with one of the ARs found inside the vehicle.
were I looking to commit Suicide By Cop , I might feign a draw out in the open.
hard for me to belive that a grown man, with any remaining touch in reality, would honestly think he could draw a 9mm pistol from his pocket (left right inside or out) with a dozen armed officers around him and have an outcome of any sort other than his demise.

Having survived the "Rudolph" era in my town and county, I'm not believing much of anything the Ministry of Truth puts out. We were shown first hand who or what they are. Seafire's account of his visit to New Bern echo's a lot of what went on here. Seafire, excellent post.

Not much need for me to add anything to what I think happened in Oregon other than that the Feds were not happy with the results in Neveda some time back. So as my Dad taught me, it is dangerous to be right if the Government is wrong.

Nobody accused him of being bright.



Dave

looks pretty dangerous to be wrong too...

This thread is an excellent example of the ignorance that consumes our citizens today.

I HIGHLY recommend a whole bunch of you read up and study the 4th Amendment and how it is interpreted by the courts in our country today. More specifically, Graham vs Connor.




Dave

It's only been around 26 years.

no, grasping at a bullet wound in the stomach or side

Time doesn't keep people from reading.




Dave