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This thread is an excellent example of the ignorance that consumes our citizens today.
I HIGHLY recommend a whole bunch of you read up and study the 4th Amendment and how it is interpreted by the courts in our country today. More specifically, Graham vs Connor.
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In the Graham vs Connor decision the Constitutional "substantive due process" test was overridden to give license to Kill at the "Officers Discretion" even if an Officer is accidently serving a warrant at a wrong address. Basically this gave Officers the right to kill even if they are making a mistake. "Oops...sorry about that". Somehow I'm thinking this should not be as it is and a wrong decision.
When I no longer have the right to protect my own person or property...my person and property have become public property in common.
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In the Graham vs Connor decision the Constitutional "substantive due process" test was overridden to give license to Kill at the "Officers Discretion" even if an Officer is accidently serving a warrant at a wrong address. Basically this gave Officers the right to kill even if they are making a mistake. "Oops...sorry about that".
Somehow I'm thinking this should not be as it is and a wrong decision.
You might want to read it again as you clearly have no fugking idea what you're typing about. Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Lack of desire keeps people from reading, even when they have a really long time line to do it.
"Don't believe everything you see on the Internet" - Abraham Lincoln
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Lack of desire keeps people from reading, Well stated. Happy New Year. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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In the Graham vs Connor decision the Constitutional "substantive due process" test was overridden to give license to Kill at the "Officers Discretion" even if an Officer is accidently serving a warrant at a wrong address. Basically this gave Officers the right to kill even if they are making a mistake. "Oops...sorry about that".
Somehow I'm thinking this should not be as it is and a wrong decision.
You might want to read it again as you clearly have no fugking idea what you're typing about. Dave I have read it many times, spent hours deciphering it. This is indeed the summary and end result of the decision. Maybe read it again for a recap? https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/490/386/
When I no longer have the right to protect my own person or property...my person and property have become public property in common.
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Read it again, dumb fugk.
Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Without a doubt the guy got out with his hands in the air. If I was on a jury the two shooters who go down for murder. What do you figure he was doing when he put his hands down? Scratching his nuts? no, grasping at a bullet wound in the stomach or side That's going to be a common reality on the Internet for many years to come, regardless of what the medical examiner's report says.
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Whoever was in that vehicle should be GD thankful they weren't shot.
The dipschit that was driving put them all in some very serious danger.
Travis
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Whoever was in that vehicle should be GD thankful they weren't shot.
The dipschit that was driving put them all in some very serious danger.
Travis Every one of them in the group, whether in the vehicles that were stopped, or at the refuge, at any point, placed themselves in that situation. Did anyone really think this would end any better than it did? Even the group that took over the refuge? They knew what they were doing, and the potential consequences. Perhaps they thought that lunch was worth the price. Who knows?
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Whoever was in that vehicle should be GD thankful they weren't shot.
The dipschit that was driving put them all in some very serious danger. I hate letting other people drive.
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Read it again, dumb fugk.
Dave I will...And even though the burden of proof is on you because you brought it up...I will go and pull the excerpts to prove my position and summary of that decision.
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Whoever was in that vehicle should be GD thankful they weren't shot.
The dipschit that was driving put them all in some very serious danger.
Travis Every one of them in the group, whether in the vehicles that were stopped, or at the refuge, at any point, placed themselves in that situation. Did anyone really think this would end any better than it did? Even the group that took over the refuge? They knew what they were doing, and the potential consequences. Perhaps they thought that lunch was worth the price. Who knows? There is that. But that was definitely a deadly force situation the moment he punched the gas. I think the guys running the barricade showed a lot of restraint. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Read it again, dumb fugk.
Dave I will...And even though the burden of proof is on you because you brought it up...I will go and pull the excerpts to prove my position and summary of that decision. Only you can stop yourself from demonstrating that you are a dumb fugk. Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Whoever was in that vehicle should be GD thankful they weren't shot.
The dipschit that was driving put them all in some very serious danger.
Travis Every one of them in the group, whether in the vehicles that were stopped, or at the refuge, at any point, placed themselves in that situation. Did anyone really think this would end any better than it did? Even the group that took over the refuge? They knew what they were doing, and the potential consequences. Perhaps they thought that lunch was worth the price. Who knows? There is that. But that was definitely a deadly force situation the moment he punched the gas. I think the guys running the barricade showed a lot of restraint. Travis Totally agree. When the time comes to stand up and demand your civil rights, it would do well to take a good look at the faces you have aligned with. Convicted felons and suicidal maniacs might not be the best choice! Especially when they start displaying arms and threatening to use them.
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Travis, I'm at the range enjoying a beautiful day.
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Two armed folks, facing off when both believe they are in the right, will never end well for one of them.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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Travis, I'm at the range enjoying a beautiful day.
GFY Kingston, My range has steel hung from the 1 to the 1K. It's 5 minutes from my front door. There are no range officers and it is open from sunup, to sunset 24/7/365. It cost $15 a year and you'll find me there burning powder no less than three days a week, on average. This is one of the many reasons I'm as good as a shooter as I am. Please forgive my not being envious of your Sunday. And GFY. Clark
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Two armed folks, facing off when both believe they are in the right, will never end well for one of them. Especially when there are three and two of them have you in a tactical L. Like I said, nobody accused him of being bright. Dave
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Mark McConnell the driver of the jeep posted a video to Facebook where he claims to have spoken to Ryan Payne and Shawna Cox who were in Finicums truck and subsequently arrested. Both allegedly stated to McConnell that Finicum wanted to fight it out and got out of the truck to do so. McConnell also recounts an argument Payne and Finicum had where Payne wanted to surrender and Finicum wanted to fight. McConnell repeatedly dismisses the statements made by the 18yo as not consistant with the stories of Payne and Cox. https://youtu.be/ibbVgfiXeHI He must be in on it. My God, they're all in on it.It's bigger than we thought. I'll bet if there was audio, we'd hear them screaming "Put your hands on your waist! Now!" (Sarcasm off)
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C'mon, RD, he was reaching to plug the first bullet hole with a finger, not for a gun....rolls eyes I figured his balls itched. If they itch bad enough you don't care about anything else.
Of course these are just as plausible as the thoughts from BH. If he was reaching to scratch his balls, the LEO's/Agents should have known this before firing upon him from the reports that he had jock itch along with all the bullet holes in him. Now if he reached down to scratch his balls with his left hand instead of his right, that would change the shoot/don't shoot scenario as well.
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