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Cow movie was a snap, opened the gates followed them home, they were thru the calving pasture and into the upper corrals before I got the gates closed....

I'd say that's a good omen, and bodes well.

....gotta' love older, well fed stock.

GTC

They was all bunched up about 1/4 mile south of the gate when we got there, left the gate open ran thru and counted them, shut the solar pump off and away they went. Never left the trail , got to the road crossed it went thru the gate, and we were still 1/2 mile behind them...
Got to love them home raised 1 iron gals.

Not really,...The BRITS did,....called it the .450 x 3 1/4 Express or some such.
SAME case, lighter bullets, lazier (and sane) twist rates, single and double guns, some VERY high end "Majarajah Class".
...popular in India and Africa for a BRIEF while,...and a source of grief when Cordite and White Powder rounds in the same dimensional spec. came along.

GTC

Got any azzkicker 32-40 loads?

Some years ago I found a waist holster with all the loops stuffed perfectly acceptable for a RSB. Some time passed and the rig started pulling my pants down, that being awkward to say the least. I notice most times in movies they have loops filled when the belts are hanging on shoulders rather than waists larger than hips. Beer and extra tacos will do that to a fella.

I don't sport around much with belt looped ammo these days. But if I did it would be hangin' on a shoulder.

Nope,...puzzy "Target Shooters" like me stick to the smaller stuff.

My 25-20 has given me a terrible flinch.

GTC

You made me choke on my coffee!

Lemme see, 8 Bore, 220gr Fg, 2+ oz lead slug... IIRC, when you touched off the first of those loads, it lifted your left foot off of the ground and the muzzle of that Settler's Gun was at ~40 degrees elevation. Somewhere around here I have a pic of you firing that "puzzy load".

Ed

That's the shot that finished me off,....kinda' like Baker's 4 bore screwed up his equilibrium.

Hones,...these days I confine myself to gallery loads and 22 CB shorts.

Even "Velocitors" and "Stingers" start bothering me,....I start weeping and drooling, and have developed an interesting nervous tic.

Honest, this is the worst flinch imaginable....the only thing that seems to help is judicious quantities of Quality Adult beverages.

GTC

Fixed it.

Ed

Not at this time, Ed,....judicious IS the operative word,...there's just to damned MUCH going on to even consider "partying".
Will be unloading this "new /old" tool grinder in the PM , Mañana,...and will post some pics.
The HEART , and very SOUL of quality mold making, Barrel drilling, reaming, rifling STARTS with having the capacity to hold some pretty close tolerances. Hell, it's the foundation for just about ANY custom shop , working in hard metals, making ANYTHING.
"Abrasive Machining" has been around for ,....oh, a coupla' three millenia.
It's not "Rocket Science"
.....that don't mean you'll find foot driven stones, or water powered overhead line shafts powering up the lathes and mills at Shilo's plant, or any other contemporary shop that plays in the vintage / historic arms arena.
The recent "Original Sharps barrel re-birth" stunt has been a tremendous motivator, and was timed just right on the heels of getting that lumberjack's rolling block rifle into its' family's hands.
Shopping a second (bigger) lathe, as I peck.
Drinkin' any more than proper analgesic requirements, and
frost preventative methodologies dictate would not be wise, at this time.
Crap,...over-indulgence might see one again running something big enough to spin out ML artillery barrels.
BTW,....that Mountain Howitzer is STILL for sale,...at the RIGHT price.....to the RIGHT team, or person.

GTC

Just yankin' yer chain, compadre.

No one can pull off the metallurgical marvels that you do with copious quantities of any adult beverage on board.

I can't wait to see the next installment of the Sharps job. I'm also very glad you are back in your groove.

Speaking of spinning another tube, how big a lathe are you looking for?
I've recently seen a monster (to me) lathe (8' bed?) sitting in a local welding shop that hasn't seen hard work in a long time.
I couldn't get close enough to get the make/model. I do know the owner and he takes pride in taking care of his tools. He inherited the shop from his Dad. His Dad had built the shop after getting out of the military, planning on being an oilfield machine shop with some minor welding jobs.
The area had different ideas and they became a welding shop with an occasional machine job.

Ed

Ed a 16 X 96 would be leaning into the "largest" realm,...
Any larger swing should really call out a longer distance between center / bed length.
I LOVED that old 20 X 80 Summit I had at the old (big) shop,....even if it did work a man half to death,....but if I ever get into that size machine again,....I'll damn sure want it LONGER.

That said, an ACTIVE search is in progress, so anything that you can send regarding likely candidates most appreciated.

Not just Smoke wagons,....this "Cochise Pump" project looks like a good play, and COULD be a fine line of small production work.

GTC

Enjoying this thread, Crossfire, heard you mention the Farmingdale 120 Yup I had an early Wolf gun, 120, it shot ok but I had to clean the barrel after every shot! was a 16lb rifle if I rember right! I got the rifle for $900.00 at the time , late 80s, gun looked great, and was a big ass Sharps, I tried everything I could read at the time I knew No one that shot Blacck powder Cart. then. Read The Dukes stuff in shooting time Mag. No CPs then or internet! I couldnt champer another round , without a full cleaning! I read down the road that the chambers were Very tight! after a summer of messing with it I sold it at a gun show for 900.00 and never looked back! my next one was a C Sharps in 45-70 worked fine! Congrads to the guy with the New 120 sounds like your doing fine and the Net has alot of help you just have to ask!

Follow up....

Got out to the range recently and applied some of the know-how gleamed from you folks.

Namely:

1. Did not size or trim brass
2. Applied just enough crimp to hold the bullet in place
3. Ran a cotton patch through every three shots
4. Positioned myself more upright on the shooting bench


Loads were as before with 105 gr GOEX, 545 gr boolits, and CCI mag primers with a 0.060" veggie wad

This is ten rounds at 100...~5" CTC Still nothing to write home about, but a significant improvement over the first time out.

More bullets recently arrived in the mail and once I can load them and get out, I will continue the R&D. Looking forward to some more experimentation with the blow tube and additional fouling management.

Run a damp patch on a jag or brush thru the bore after every shot and you'll see more improvement.

Thanks Ranch, I'll give that a try.

Question: Should I run just one wet patch per shot or multiple? Leave the bore wet or push a dry cloth through on a jag or brush?

Earlier you suggested using a mix of water and cutting oil on a jag and then drying the bore with a 410 mop. What is the science behind adding the oil?

I did order some mops so as to give that a try as well.

Thanks again for the pointers.

M1919

If the patches are just barely damp, no dry patch would be needed.
The number of patches will largely depend on ambient temperature and humidity. 2 should be sufficient for most conditions.
Bore condition consistency is what you're after.

How you treat your bore depends on several factors, one of which is the ambient temp and humidity. Barrel length is another. Shooting here in a hot dry desert climate presents a real challenge, and wiping is the order of the day. Blowing through a tube just doesn't introduce enough moisture.

There is no true "science" behind it. My sense of the value of a bit of soluble oil is that it keeps the bore moist and the fouling soft. Especially with a hot barrel, plain water evaporates almost immediately. Accuracy, preventing leading, and possibly chambering ease are the goals.

If you are pushing dry flakes out the muzzle, you need more moisture. Also, watch the lube star at the muzzle. Soft and greasy is good, hard and black not.

Paul

A bit late in the game here, but I find it humorous that Kirk at Shiloh will encourage owning and shooting howitzers like that 45-120, but when it comes to BPCR, he mostly shoots a 40-65.

It seems as though some rifles is meant for shooting, while others is meant for selling...