Home Forums Reloading Varmint Rifles 22 Creedmoor

NEWS FLASH:
A complete lineup of "Creed" rounds will take the world by storm and make all the antiques totally obsolete.
Just as the 30TC took the world by storm and put those old standbys, 30-06 and 308, in the closet with your rebel flag.
The 243 and even those young "upstarts" like the 7MM08 and 260 Remington are headed out to pasture as well.
The future is here! One case, "The Creed" in yur reloading stash can be necked down or necked up for all your shootin' iron feed!

I read on the Internet that the .29 Creedmoor will be the next factory version.

I'm afraid the Italians beat them to the market several decades ago with the 7.35 (.299) x51 Carcano. How did that psalm go: What was once will be again and there is nothing new under the sun.

I wish..
Least wise I wish Ruger would chamber their RAR in a 6mm Creed and a .22 Creed with 1:8 twist barrels..
Stainless!
Have one of their RA Predators in 6.5 Creed and it shots great!

A friend made a good point lastnight about the 22creed vs 22-250. We were discussing the 6.5 creed and how it's cool for non hand loaders to be able to shoot high BC bullets if they so choose. As handloaders we'd like to see 8 twist 22-250's but they'd need to be able to support it with factory ammo. It would be hard to make people understand why 75's keyhole in their slow twist barrels......

So not that's it's better worse or about the same but it would be a different chambering all together and factory loaded 75 amax or bthp's could be had. Same same for the 6creed(which I shoot now)

Actually, the more I think about it the more a 22 Creedmoor makes sense.

I know a few of the 'makers' have been skeered to do anything but a 1-14" twist for the 22/250 because of Saami, it's always been that way, etc etc.

If the come out with the 22 Creedmoor and start it off with a 1-8" twist to begin with, all is golden.

That might indeed be a deal changer.

The .223 WSSM might still be alive if the barrels bad been 1-8 instead of 1-10.

In all seriousness, I do own both 6.5 and 6 versions of the Creedmoor and enjoy them very much. John, I think you may have hit the nail on the head with your assessment. It seems ammo manufacturers keep introducing new cartridges to "replace" the tried and true instead of compliment them. I have to admit the idea of a fast twist mated to a 22-250 has had my eye for quite some time. So much so that I have added a Savage LRPV with 1 in 9 twist to my safe. It can handle the 77SMK with H4350 and shots the 55 Vmax Hornady pretty dang good too. Pretty versatile I think.
So, bring on the 22 Creedmoor and "do the twist"!

I think part of the Creed success was the availability of top grade ammo.

If they bring out an 8 twist .22 Creed and produce target grade ammo with 75 gr. Amax, etc. they'll have another winner.

Everyone isn't a handloader. I have an 8 twist .22-250, don't need a .22 Creed.

DF

Well it looks like we're all saying the same thing here so we agree their is merit in the creed line ip

Which means if it does come out it will be twisted 1-12"

Be a shame but I wouldn't doubt it. Or out a cock block in it restricting coal....

Don't ya think those guys read Fire posts...

Otherwise, how could they know anything...

Seriously, a SAAMI spec'ed 8 twist .22 Creedmoor would knock it out of the park.

It's the total marketing concept: High grade ammo, reasonably priced, high B.C. bullets, great LR performance, the right rifles so chambered.

Varmint hunters, deer/hog/pronghorn hunters, non-loony gun lovers who don't reload will appreciate ready made, proven performance right off the shelf, not too unlike LR target shooters who went for the 6.5 Creedmoor concept.

It should just about market itself. The secret, IMO, is in the total package, the total performance package all ready to go, which becomes the total marketing package.

I can just see those ads...

DF

The ones that do reload will have to endure Hornady's poor effort of making an even worse version of LEE dies...

I have no problems making straight ammo using Hornady dies..

Redding is my favorite overall, but I like Hornady dies, especially their seaters.

The Lee Collet neck sizer along with a good body die is a hard to beat combo for concentric ammo.

Guess you gotta pick and choose.

DF

This!

Plus 22-250 AI performance without the fire form

The 30 degree shoulder is what I like, for one thing it feeds a little smoother than the traditional AI 40 degree shoulder.

I'll wait for the .257 Creedmore. Won't that be revolutionary?!

So its decided the barrel choice is 8" twist if possible?