|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,684
Campfire Outfitter
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,684 |
what is the earilest mod H TD that there are records of ,,and in 30-30?
also the TD rear metal first came out with a single bolt through it then some where above 18339x they added a plate on the back with 2 screws [ser no]but below 19445x then they removed the through bolt somewhere befor 208xxx ,do we have any closer transition numbers??
norm
There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle----Robert Alden .
If it wern't entertaining, I wouldn't keep coming back.------the BigSky
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 14,585
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 14,585 |
The TD's started around 70,000. Will guess that the 1899-H TD was available about the same time.
Cross bolt change in the 204xxx to 206xxx range.
Savage...never say "never".
Rick...
Join the NRA...together we stand, divided we fall!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,684
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,684 |
so I am reading Murry's wrong when i assumed that TD on mod H began close to the 22HP in 1911-12.??
anybody else got a closer num on cross bolt and back plate????
norm
There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle----Robert Alden .
If it wern't entertaining, I wouldn't keep coming back.------the BigSky
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 14,585
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 14,585 |
How about 2042xx with and 2051xx without the cross bolt.
I have not seen one with the later 2 screws and the cross bolt, if that's what you stated earlier.
On the 1899-H TD... Murray states it was added 1909. The earliest H TD in my data is 81xxx, produced 12/1907. But, I did not always note TD's in my early data so might be earlier ones. With the TD feature offered around 70,000 I would guess that there might be 1899-H TD's dating from that serial range.
Savage...never say "never".
Rick...
Join the NRA...together we stand, divided we fall!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,684
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,684 |
How about 2042xx with and 2051xx without the cross bolt.
I have not seen one with the later 2 screws and the cross bolt, if that's what you stated earlier.
On the 1899-H TD... Murray states it was added 1909. The earliest H TD in my data is 81xxx, produced 12/1907. But, I did not always note TD's in my early data so might be earlier ones. With the TD feature offered around 70,000 I would guess that there might be 1899-H TD's dating from that serial range. yes 19445x has both cross bolt and 2 screws so 2042xx has a crossbolt and probaly had the 2 screws as well? norm
There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle----Robert Alden .
If it wern't entertaining, I wouldn't keep coming back.------the BigSky
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 14,585
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 14,585 |
I checked 197xxx, 200xxx, 201xxx and the 2042xx, all are cross bolt, only.
Having both styles might make since if on a later rifle (post cross bolt)then it might have been just using up old parts. But having a later style feature on an early rifle makes little since. I don't see it as being a common occurrence. The forearm wood would have to be shortened, metal would have to be notched for the 2 screw plate and the serial stamped in the channel.
Anyone else have TD's in this 193xxx to 206xxx range with both cross bolt and 2 screw plate.
Savage...never say "never".
Rick...
Join the NRA...together we stand, divided we fall!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,684
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,684 |
I checked 197xxx, 200xxx, 201xxx and the 2042xx, all are cross bolt, only.
Having both styles might make since if on a later rifle (post cross bolt)then it might have been just using up old parts. But having a later style feature on an early rifle makes little since. I don't see it as being a common occurrence. The forearm wood would have to be shortened, metal would have to be notched for the 2 screw plate and the serial stamped in the channel.
Anyone else have TD's in this 193xxx to 206xxx range with both cross bolt and 2 screw plate. small  update to your numbers of up to 2042xx with just a cross bolt i checked mine ,, the ser no was on a piece of tape in the channel ,i presumed it came off a rifle of that ser no , but there is NO SER NO on the forearm, must have come off a 22HP i parted out?? so mabey it was after 2042xx.????? norm
There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle----Robert Alden .
If it wern't entertaining, I wouldn't keep coming back.------the BigSky
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 14,585
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 14,585 |
Maybe two different forearms pieced together?
Savage...never say "never".
Rick...
Join the NRA...together we stand, divided we fall!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,684
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 7,684 |
Maybe two different forearms pieced together? It's a Savage NEVER say never annomaly, looks like it left the factory this way piece with through bolt drilled then picked out of the bottom of the barrel rear grove cut in for the plate, plate installed . back of the wood no marks just a factory cut, one of a kind ??mabey a few more?????????? norm
There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle----Robert Alden .
If it wern't entertaining, I wouldn't keep coming back.------the BigSky
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 14,585
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 14,585 |
Gives us something else to watch for.  Never say "never".
Savage...never say "never".
Rick...
Join the NRA...together we stand, divided we fall!
|
|
|
|
|
560 members (1minute, 160user, 10gaugemag, 1lessdog, 007FJ, 1lesfox, 53 invisible),
2,675
guests, and
1,245
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,191,365
Posts18,469,021
Members73,931
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
