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Originally Posted by dodgefan
Here's a picture of 3 suspects wheeling luggage through a terminal.
http://nieuws.vtm.be/binnenland/183701-dit-zijn-verdachten-aanslag-zaventem




Can't be. Those look like middle eastern males between the ages of 20-40. They'd never slip in undetected.


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I'll let you know when I get the report. I can tell you with near certainty that it wasn't TATP.

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Originally Posted by gunswizard
Does it make sense to be discussing a topic like this on an open forum where the information might be accessed those who would use it to do harm? I know, I know the information is available all over the internet but do we have to hand it to them here?

Yeah, I'm sure this site is swarming with Muslims just waiting to tap into the vast knowledge here


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If I had to make a guess I would bet on Semtex


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I am sure you are correct in that TATP was not involved. Why would they use a homemade and unstable explosive? The borders over there are so overrun with "refugees" they can get whatever they want in. You might now consider our own situation as to securing the southern border. Drugs by the ton come in a couple hundred pounds of RDX,PETN,or good old C-4 should be a breeze.
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I'll let you know when I get the report. I can tell you with near certainty that it wasn't TATP.


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I'd wager the Iranians are making it.


Almost surely, & w.o a doubt.

We/Europe/NATO has absolutely no strategy to address the problem; totally defensive, after the fact & reactive.

Need to destroy the nests where the vipers live & breed once & for all.

But I'll not hold my breath...............

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Good chances for the investigators to understand how and with what were made the bomb. 2 of them have been retrieved unexploded and defused at the airport.


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With all our technology, I can't believe we don't have a method for "sniffing" out explosives set up at the entrances to airports (including the cargo areas) and other public buildings......


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Originally Posted by gunswizard
Does it make sense to be discussing a topic like this on an open forum where the information might be accessed those who would use it to do harm? I know, I know the information is available all over the internet but do we have to hand it to them here?


It's too late. Those guys already have a plan and are putting it together as we speak. If any of you think we are going to escape this kind of an attack, you been sleeping in a democrat bed. Explosives are hard to come by if you try to get them legally in America but if you are bringing them over the border via air or water you can get anything you want.

It won't be re-purposed fireworks. kwg

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Originally Posted by Bluemonday
Explosively Formed Penetrators. Cut a man right in half. There was a huge Army Buffalo at Camp Victory that got breached by a large one.


The origin of these days back to the oil industry in 1930's when the first "Oil Well Perforators" were developed. They were used to blast/cut holes into metal well casing and the rock surrounding them..

In more recent times,Iran actually produced these commercially for use the Middle East oil fields and it wasn't long before their use was diverted for use by various Iranian SF/Terrorist units...

That said, the Red Army Faction used them for terrorist purposes in the late 80's and they also saw use in the conflicts in Northern Ireland and South America as well, so the Iranians were not the originators of these as terror weapons although they probably perfected them as such.

I don't think there has been any suggestion this technology was used in Brussels, and the ME is awash with basic EOD making expertise with much of the expertise now being spread via the Web..

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Originally Posted by ingwe
Wild guessing here but TATP is usually home made and unstable....not a good choice. As someone said, SEMTEX is a llikely candidate, as is PETN.


Actually, TATP is the most likely candidate. It's the favorite of hezbollah and Hamas and is what was used in the London bombings. It's easy to make, and remains stable for about 72 hours. The usual pattern is for the suicide belt to be made the day before, and that night the jihadi parades around with it on in front of a camera denouncing the west. The next day, he goes boom.

If however the jihadi gets shot before detonating the belt, and according the Arab tradition the funeral is held three days after the death (four says after the explosives were home made), the mourners risk a TATP suprise:


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Wild guessing here but TATP is usually home made and unstable....not a good choice. As someone said, SEMTEX is a llikely candidate, as is PETN.


Actually, TATP is the most likely candidate. It's the favorite of hezbollah and Hamas and is what was used in the London bombings. It's easy to make, and remains stable for about 72 hours. The usual pattern is for the suicide belt to be made the day before, and that night the jihadi parades around with it on in front of a camera denouncing the west. The next day, he goes boom.

If however the jihadi gets shot before detonating the belt, and according the Arab tradition the funeral is held three days after the death (four says after the explosives were home made), the mourners risk a TATP suprise:



No, it isn't.

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TATP-easy to make and components available it every drug store.


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My money is on Semtex.


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Originally Posted by Chris_EOD
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Originally Posted by ingwe
Wild guessing here but TATP is usually home made and unstable....not a good choice. As someone said, SEMTEX is a llikely candidate, as is PETN.


Actually, TATP is the most likely candidate. It's the favorite of hezbollah and Hamas and is what was used in the London bombings. It's easy to make, and remains stable for about 72 hours. The usual pattern is for the suicide belt to be made the day before, and that night the jihadi parades around with it on in front of a camera denouncing the west. The next day, he goes boom.

If however the jihadi gets shot before detonating the belt, and according the Arab tradition the funeral is held three days after the death (four says after the explosives were home made), the mourners risk a TATP suprise:



No, it isn't.


Multiple news sources are reporting it was a home made version of TATP, possibly made by the same individual that manufactured the explosives for Paris.


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Originally Posted by Nebraska
With all our technology, I can't believe we don't have a method for "sniffing" out explosives set up at the entrances to airports (including the cargo areas) and other public buildings......



We do.......we just don't employ enough of them.....


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Originally Posted by ingwe
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With all our technology, I can't believe we don't have a method for "sniffing" out explosives set up at the entrances to airports (including the cargo areas) and other public buildings......



We do.......we just don't employ enough of them.....


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One of those high tech sniffer devices hit on something at the Denver Airport today.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Chris_EOD
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by ingwe
Wild guessing here but TATP is usually home made and unstable....not a good choice. As someone said, SEMTEX is a llikely candidate, as is PETN.


Actually, TATP is the most likely candidate. It's the favorite of hezbollah and Hamas and is what was used in the London bombings. It's easy to make, and remains stable for about 72 hours. The usual pattern is for the suicide belt to be made the day before, and that night the jihadi parades around with it on in front of a camera denouncing the west. The next day, he goes boom.

If however the jihadi gets shot before detonating the belt, and according the Arab tradition the funeral is held three days after the death (four says after the explosives were home made), the mourners risk a TATP suprise:



No, it isn't.


Multiple news sources are reporting it was a home made version of TATP, possibly made by the same individual that manufactured the explosives for Paris.


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Yeah...the media reported early that there were Kalashnikovs laying about....but no one heard any shots, and the guys that blew themselves up were too disarticulated....


I swear if a kid falls off a curb somewhere the media will repot an AK-47 was involved...


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Once the terrorists were in the airport or in the subway train, it was too late.
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