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Alpha has a bunch less case capacity than Horn.

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Alpha has a bunch less case capacity than Horn.

thought so, thank you !!!

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Still investigating but ran a pressure series with 7828ssc behind 147gr ELDs today. 10 rounds with .5gr between charges. Started at 42gr and ended at 46.5gr. 46.5gr gave 2886fps. Primer was a little flat but no heavy bolt lift and no ejector mark. All ten rounds went into a group a little over an inch. Not going to go any higher though..,

Winds permitting, group testing tomorrow...

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Originally Posted by Hondo64d
Still investigating but ran a pressure series with 7828ssc behind 147gr ELDs today. 10 rounds with .5gr between charges. Started at 42gr and ended at 46.5gr. 46.5gr gave 2886fps. Primer was a little flat but no heavy bolt lift and no ejector mark. All ten rounds went into a group a little over an inch. Not going to go any higher though..,

Winds permitting, group testing tomorrow...

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That is smokin' for a 147! I only run them at about 2745, over re 26.


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Yeah, you don’t get something for nothing. My group testing will center around the charges that gave 2800 fps or less.

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Grouped 3 different charges, 44, 44.4, and 44.8gr. None of them showed me anything special, grouping about .8” for five shots. Extreme spreads weren’t great either, running about 37fps. I’m going to load some up and see how they do at long range just for grins.

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Shooter71 spun on a Hawkhill #2 8 twist for me. Chopped it at 22". Goal was to build a factory ammo shooter for my daughter. So pulled a low round count Hart #2 in 260 Remington to do it. First 3 shots ever down the barrel was Berger Factory Ammo 135 Classics. Those went around .4" to start things off. They held that accuracy out to 500 yards within the first box of 20 factory rounds.

It then shot the 140 vld and 147 ELD handloaded stuff quite well too. Most info should be on the targets. These were all among the first 30 rounds ever fired in it.

Shooter71 did give this one a .150 throat so I can hit the lands at around 2.805 with the 147 eld and 140 vld.

Good smith, good Lapua brass, good barrel, pretty easy to work with.

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30 grains of 4198, and a 100 grain Ballistic Tip....

it will impress your friends or really piss them off....


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Alpha brass,.003" constriction,200's,'17 and a 147 Smooch.

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Reloader 26 is like pixie dust in the 6.5 CM...
48 grs with 140 Amax was ~2900 in a 24” barrel. 1/2” 3 shot group.... no pressure signs...
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Was raining today, so the ProChrono didn't get brought out, but I think the RL26 may indeed be the ticket. Hornady brass, CCI200, and the 143ELD-X over 47 and 48 grains both shot around a half inch at 100yds. No pressure signs at 70F. Bergara HMR. 2.855" OAL. Not bad for a used factory rifle and cheap brass.


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Was only able to get about 45 grains of RL26 in my case due to a shorter throat.CCI small rifle mag primer, lapua brass. Shoots the 147 eld well with that powder too.
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Shot more RL26 after this with 45.5 grains and 147 eld. Muzzle velocity is 2700 fps and holding around .3-.4" off bench.

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Originally Posted by jstevens
My best load is the 123 Scenar with 39 gr of Varget. 2900 fps and .8 for five shots at 200 yards consistently.

Yep

Varget has characteristically low S.D's, great consistency, popular with the target crowd and for good reason.

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Originally Posted by Hondo64d
Grouped 3 different charges, 44, 44.4, and 44.8gr. None of them showed me anything special, grouping about .8” for five shots. Extreme spreads weren’t great either, running about 37fps. I’m going to load some up and see how they do at long range just for grins.

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I know, different strokes, but any load that puts five shots from a hunting rifle into .8” at 100 yds. is special in my opinion.


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My best load is the 123 Scenar with 39 gr of Varget. 2900 fps and .8 for five shots at 200 yards consistently.

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Varget has characteristically low S.D's, great consistency, popular with the target crowd and for good reason.

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Looks great, what brass, primer? I have a lot of Varget that needs used.


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Hornady brass, Fed 210 primers, Hornady dies.

I think Varget is a good choice with light bullets. Varget is known for low SD’s, consistent performance, probably one of the reasons why the target crowd likes it.

I’d probably try RL-26 with 147’s.

BTW, I use Lapua brass when and where I can. IME, this Hornady brass is very good. The batch I’m using is pretty close to Lapua. Some may squawk at that. Just reporting, you decide.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Hornady brass, Fed 210 primers, Hornady dies.

I think Varget is a good choice with light bullets. Varget is known for low SD’s, consistent performance, probably one of the reasons why the target crowd likes it.

I’d probably try RL-26 with 147’s.

BTW, I use Lapua brass when and where I can. IME, this Hornady brass is very good. The batch I’m using is pretty close to Lapua. Some may squawk at that. Just reporting, you decide.

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I'll try some Varget with the 120's, if I can get the groups like the H4350 I'll be happy. Currently using Lapua brass also but do have some Starlline to try sometime.


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