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Here is my summary.

Rings (larger measurement included with each is the distance to ocular center from top of P-rail)
APA 30mm Low 0.750"
TPS Ultra Low 30mm TSR/TSRW/HRT 0.82” or .23”
Seekins Precision 30mm Low 0.82 or .23”
Seekins Precision 1” Low 0.75 or .25”
Trijicon TR100/TR103 1" Std 0.82"
Trijicon TR104/TR107 30mm Std 0.95"
Badger Ordinance 30mm Std 0.823 or .233”
Warne Maxima QD 30mm Low 0.83 or .25” (Weaver style)
Leupold Mark 4 Rings 30mm Med 0.84 or .25”
Leupold QRW 30mm Low .77” or .18”
Leupold QRW 1” Super Low .55 or .05” (Weaver style)
Leupold QRW 1” Low .65 or .15” (Weaver style)
Night Force rings 30mm Low 0.885 or .295”
Nightforce Ultralight 30mm Low 0.885 or .295
LaRue 0.85 or .26”
Near Mfg. ???????

Bases for Rem. 700 SA
Seekins 20MOA Base on a Remington use .44” for rear height or .29” for front height
McCann Industries is also .44” Rear; .29” Front (they only make a 20MOA base)(steel).
Badger Ordinance OMOA Rem 700 SA Rear .41; Front .31"
LaRue 0MOA .43" Rear (Aluminum)
LaRue 20MOA .46" Rear (Aluminum)
Warne M673SA R= .400; F=.288 (Steel)
Warne M673-20SA R= .400; F=.248 (Steel)

This is a setup that I had used for 6,500 rounds on a 1998 Rem 700 LTR .308 w/ Mark 4 M1 3.5-10x40mm. It served me very well and took quite a bit of abuse.
Leupold QR R .34”; F .23”
Leupold QR 30mm rings .06”
Total = .40” or .99”(OC)

Lowest Picatinny Rail setup with 30mm P-Rail rings…
TPS Ultra Low 30mm TSR/TSRW/HRT 0.82” or .23” or Seekins Precision 30mm Low 0.82 or .23” +
Warne M673SA R= .400; F=.288 (Steel) or Warne M673-20SA R= .400; F=.248 (Steel)
Total= .63” or 1.22”

Lowest Picatinny Rail setup with 1” P-Rail rings…
Seekins Precision 1” Low 0.75 or .25” + Warne M673SA R= .400; F=.288 (Steel) or Warne M673-20SA R= .400; F=.248 (Steel)
Total= .65” or 1.15” (OC)

Lowest Picatinny Rail setup with 30mm Weaver rings…

NEW lowest******
APA 30mm Low .75” or .16” + Warne M673SA R= .400; F=.288 (Steel) or Warne M673-20SA R= .400; F=.248 (Steel)
Total = .56” or 1.15” (OC)

OLD lowest****
Leupold QRW 30mm Low .77” or .18” + Warne M673SA R= .400; F=.288 (Steel) or Warne M673-20SA R= .400; F=.248 (Steel)
Total = .58” or 1.17” (OC)

Lowest Picatinny Rail setup with 1” Weaver rings…
Leupold QRW 1” Super Low .55 or .05” (Weaver style) + Warne M673SA R= .400; F=.288 (Steel) or Warne M673-20SA R= .400; F=.248 (Steel)
Total = .45” or .95” (OC)



Useful Info
15 millimeters = 0.590551181 inches


Edited adding APA 30mm Low .750"

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These I believe are the lowest in a picatinny configuration .......

.750's
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And Cameron at Murphy's Precision can make a Rail thats pretty low also !

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Thanks Ackleyfan! I updated the list. We have a new low!

I originally made this in 2010 and posted it on the old hide. I had to acquire and measure all the various bases. When the hide sold out I baled, but every once in a while I need to reference this list and have to go find it. I figured I'd post it on the Fire, as this is where I spend most of my time these days.



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A very time consuming list you did a nice job putting it together ....very useful!

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Another option is the American Rifle XLOW M10-1-00-30-20 at 0.79" or 0.20". I haven't used these, but reviews seem to range from positive to glowing. I might give a try.

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Nice List. Thanks for putting it together.

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Originally Posted by kingston
Another option is the American Rifle XLOW M10-1-00-30-20 at 0.79" or 0.20". I haven't used these, but reviews seem to range from positive to glowing. I might give a try.

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Would like to hear your opinions if you do.


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The ARC mounts will make you toss everything else away. Don't try them. It WILL get expensive.

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Originally Posted by BeardHunter
The ARC mounts will make you toss everything else away. Don't try them. It WILL get expensive.


Whats so special about them........

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Don't mar scope. Takes about two minutes to get rings on rail, scope in rings and leveled with no rotation when you tighten down the clamp. Come in extry low and can sure help eye alignment with a rail and a stock with a lower comb. And have been rock solid on everything I've put them on.

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Originally Posted by BeardHunter
Don't mar scope. Takes about two minutes to get rings on rail, scope in rings and leveled with no rotation when you tighten down the clamp. Come in extry low and can sure help eye alignment with a rail and a stock with a lower comb. And have been rock solid on everything I've put them on.


Pretty nice attributes, have you had a chance to weigh a pair?

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Originally Posted by BeardHunter
Don't mar scope. Takes about two minutes to get rings on rail, scope in rings and leveled with no rotation when you tighten down the clamp. Come in extry low and can sure help eye alignment with a rail and a stock with a lower comb. And have been rock solid on everything I've put them on.


Pretty nice attributes, have you had a chance to weigh a pair?


No rotation is a big plus.

Interested in the weight as well.


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Originally Posted by kingston
Another option is the American Rifle XLOW M10-1-00-30-20 at 0.79" or 0.20". I haven't used these, but reviews seem to range from positive to glowing. I might give a try.

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Someone enlighten me please. The American Rifle XLOW rings are 0.79" from top of the rail to the center-line of the optic or 0.20". What does the 0.20" measurement/height represent?


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Received the following information from American Rifle today. The information won't copy and paste correctly, but all weights displayed are in ounces. The first weight is net weight and the second is shipped weight according to AR.

I asked if the weights were for a single ring or pair and am awaiting a response. My opinion is the weights are for a single ring.

M10 Rings

1" diam x 20mm height (X-Low) 4.0 6.1
1" diam x 24mm height (Low) 4.4 6.5
1" diam x 28mm height (Medium) 4.2 6.3
1" diam x 32mm height (High) 4.3 6.4
1" diam x 36mm height (X-High) 4.5 6.6
30mm diam x 20mm height (X-Low) 4.0 6.1
30mm diam x 24mm height (Low) 4.4 6.5
30mm diam x 28mm height (Medium) 4.4 6.5
30mm diam x 32mm height (High) 4.5 6.6
30mm diam x 36mm height (X-High) 4.7 6.8
34mm diam x 24mm height (Low) 4.4 6.5
34mm diam x 28mm height (Medium) 4.8 6.9
34mm diam x 32mm height (High) 4.7 6.8
34mm diam x 36mm height (X-High) 4.8 6.9
35mm diam x 24mm height (Low) 4.4 6.5
35mm diam x 28mm height (Medium) 4.8 6.9
35mm diam x 32mm height (High) 4.7 6.8
35mm diam x 36mm height (X-High) 4.9 7.0
40mm diam x 28mm height (Medium) 4.9 7.0
40mm diam x 32mm height (High) 5.0 7.1
40mm diam x 36mm height (X-High) 5.1 7.2
M10 QD-L Mount
30mm diam x 35mm height x 0 MOA 8.1 10.2
30mm diam x 35mm height x 20 MOA 8.1 10.2
30mm diam x 35mm height x 30 MOA 8.1 10.2
30mm diam x 40mm height x 0 MOA 8.6 10.7
30mm diam x 40mm height x 20 MOA 8.6 10.7
30mm diam x 40mm height x 30 MOA 8.6 10.7
34mm diam x 35mm height x 0 MOA 8.2 10.3
34mm diam x 35mm height x 20 MOA 8.2 10.3
34mm diam x 35mm height x 30 MOA 8.2 10.3
34mm diam x 40mm height x 0 MOA 8.7 10.8
34mm diam x 40mm height x 20 MOA 8.7 10.8
34mm diam x 40mm height x 30 MOA 8.7 10.8
35mm diam x 35mm height x 0 MOA 8.2 10.3
35mm diam x 35mm height x 20 MOA 8.2 10.3
35mm diam x 35mm height x 30 MOA 8.2 10.3
35mm diam x 40mm height x 0 MOA 8.7 10.8
35mm diam x 40mm height x 20 MOA 8.7 10.8
35mm diam x 40mm height x 30 MOA 8.7 10.8

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Just got back to the ranch. I'll toss a naked set of 1" and 30mm in extry low and report.

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30mm xlow 4.8oz for the pair
1" xlow 4.7 oz for the pair

For comparison sake a set of XTR sigs 30mm in low are 6.5oz with inserts. This is on Wifey's kitchen scale but it'll get you close.

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According to AR, the weights listed above are for a pair.


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We have a new LOW.

Ken Farrell 30mm Low Rings 0.735”


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Originally Posted by kingston
Another option is the American Rifle XLOW M10-1-00-30-20 at 0.79" or 0.20". I haven't used these, but reviews seem to range from positive to glowing. I might give a try.

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Someone enlighten me please. The American Rifle XLOW rings are 0.79" from top of the rail to the center-line of the optic or 0.20". What does the 0.20" measurement/height represent?



The distance from the top of the rail to the bottom of the scope tube.

0.79” - 0.59” = 0.20”


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