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Anyway, I have a pretty cool Marlin 1894 in 38-40 (38W as stamped on the barrel). It's not original but the serial number is from 1895 and it is still as solid as a rock and shoots great!

I do not know much about it, maybe someone here does. I assume a 120 year old gun is bound to have some repairs; the butt stock has been replaced, the receiver top has been drilled to match 336 bases, and it has a 20" octagon barrel. Initially, I figured this was cut and re-crowned and the sight and mag tube cap had been moved back but I have seen others that look like this so I'm not sure.

I have been shooting it to make some brass, I have everything I need to reload but haven't tumbled the first piece of brass. Any insight would be great.

Thanks

From wikipedia..."Ballistically the .40 S&W is almost identical to the .38-40 Winchester introduced in 1874, as they share the same bullet diameter and bullet weight, and have similar muzzle velocities.[19]"...so I guess the round is relevant to some. I find it easy to reload and haven't crushed a case with a single stage press.

One of my SAA's is a 38-40, I keep looking for that M92 that someone prices low because of that odd-ball cartridge so I can snatch it up.

I have a 1906 Colt SAA and a similar aged Marlin 94 in the 38-40. Great cartridge for what it was designed for. My father killed a lot of PA whitetails with one. I found my 94 tucked back in a closet of a neighbor that was selling a lot of his collection . I had the barrel relined and made new wood for it, and gave it some color with some cold blue. The Colt is nickle plated, not too bad of shape. However back in the era it was made, Colt had a bunch or 41 caliber barrels that they stuck on them and I ended up with one.
I shoot .403 cast bullets in it as that is the biggest it will chamber in the 38-40 cylinder.It shoots tad high and a little to the left at 15 yards,but the Marlin 94 will shoot about 3-4 " groups at 100yards.

It is hard to find bullets for it as a 40S&W does not have a cannelure. I buy mine from Dardas Cast bullets and he will size to the dimension you need within reason. New barrels will probably slug to be . 401. Grafs & Sons has brass every once in awhile for the 38- 40. I load 16 gr of 2400 in both of mine. Lee has dies for them.

Quite some time ago, Ruger did a production run of their revolvers and sold them thru Buckeye Sports in Ohio.Ever once in awhile you can find one at gun shows.

I have a marlin in 38-40 and also picked up a Ruger Vaquero combo with a 40 S&W cylinder and a 38-40 cylinder. the Vaquero is a fun little pistol. I bought a bag of 500 cast bullets for the 38-40 at a gun show in Billings MT and still have a couple hundred left.

Old thread.

Upgraded my earlier post with new photo. Photobucket sucks.


My 1892 38-40 was made in 1910. Bore is shiny with minor, superficial pitting. It shoots clover leaf groups at 20 yds. with 180 gr cast bullets and Clays powder. It, in fact, out shot my new Marlin 1894 CB in .45 LC. This '92 came with the shotgun type butt stock.

38-40 can be reloaded on a Dillon or progressive press if one is careful and bells the cases on the powder drop stage. The bullets will slide right in. If not, a bullet catching the case lip will end up with a crushed case on the bullet seating stroke.

DF

I own a few, all handguns. A Ruger Buckeye 38 WCF/10mm, a custom 5 1/2" gun built on an old Flattop Ruger 357 and this custom that began life as a 357 Mag M28-2.

"However back in the era it was made, Colt had a bunch or 41 caliber barrels that they stuck on them and I ended up with one."

All 1st generation SAA Colts in 38-40 and 41 Colt had the same bbls stamped "41" on the bottom. The bore diameters are the same and they used the same bbls for both calibers.

I think I understand .What would that bore diameter be then? My relined Marlin is .401. I need to check that stamping then.I did slug that barrel two years ago,but presently forget what it was.

The case head separations in such cases comes from "oversizing", not overfiring, except in some extreme situations. When sizing the brass be sure not to set the dies on the shellholder, Back it off enough that you are primarily sizing the neck enough to hold the new bullet. Brass will last much longer this way and of course, moderate loads should be used.
Rick

So I snuck up on this buck that was napping and carefully laid my old '73 Winchester in 38-40 on him and snapped a pic before he woke up because I knew the 38-40 bullet would just bounce off if I shot him.

Yep,my father hunted Pa whitetails for about 50 years with a 38-40 and heck of a lot of them fell to it. I"d use mine for deer here in CO,but they are not legal

To listen to some, you would wonder how people fed themselves before smokeless powder. Many deer were killed with the 25 20, 32 20, 38 40 and 44 40. Hunting was a skill that was paired with shooting.

Here's my 1894 (DOM 1904) in 38-40. Not much finish left on it but the bore is pristine and the action is tight. It is a fun rifle to shoot. And, a 24 inch barrel on a Marlin 1894! Whoodathunk!


The only factory loads I found used lead bullets so I bought some Berry's 180 grain jacketed Hybrid Hollow points and loaded them up. Accuracy is good. I haven't tried them on game yet. I should think they would be an improvement over the all-lead bullets.



As for loading, I crushed a few cases and then I got out the instructions. Oh! That's what the expander is for...…. Now, reloading is no problem. - T.S.

38-40 you say? I can't get enough of them...

WOW!!!!!

Wow is right!!!

Me too....(No...the "other" me too...)-

What beauties!!!!!!

I'm guessing I'm one of the few people born in the later half of the 20th century that can say the 38 wcf was the first centerfire I shot.