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I still don't understand why a person shouldn't own a 1911.

You and MM seem to imply that the same person should own other designs but not this one.



Dave

The pistol was first put into service in 1911 and remained in service through World War I, World War II, the Korean War, and the War in Vietnam. The old war-horse proved to be particularly useful in the tunnel fighting that went on in Vietnam.

The enduring reliability of the Browning-Colt .45 military model is reflected in the fact that about 50,000 pistols "disappeared" from the 380,000 made between April 1917 and November 1918. Including pre-war production, about 100,000 of the 520,000 pistols bought by the Government disappeared in the total six-years between the first orders and the conclusion of the war. A good thief knows a good thing when he sees it.

So it served America's military with distinction and an unmatched reputation for reliability for over 60 years until International politics caused a change to 9 mm.

Exactly NONE of the other pistols mentioned here have been around that long and many of them never will be. It's already been correctly said that some people ought not own one and you have to wonder if the 1911 is as bad as they say, why in hell do they?

Why?




Dave

Not sure what posting photos has to do with this discussion, but I have posted many photos over the years...I guess you just miss those.

And I would agree with your statement. Glocks are great guns, I'm all for them and have nothing against them. I don't espouse that 1911's are the greatest or any such nonsense. I merely reject the notion that ALL 1911's are junk and don't work.

I keep forgetting, you don't really know much about guns or shooting.

Okay, so for people who shoot their guns quite often, we do this thing called MAINTENANCE. So after the pistol had burned through 6-7k rounds, I decided to change out the firing pin simply because it has seen a lot of rounds. I'm kinda weird, but I do that regardless of model of gun. The idea is to avoid parts breakage...little did I know I may have actually induced the issue by putting in a defective part. Chit happens.

Guess what, that same issue can, and HAS happened even with Glocks.

Or how 'bout a guy who spends a significant amount of time trying to convince everyone else that there is no such thing as a 1911 that works. I would say THAT guy would be a really bad candidate for a 1911.

I believe "DINK" has some time behind a handgun and has carried one for a living for quite some time.

And some of those times have been in places that make the news a lot.

So I ask again (since you're the third person saying some people should not own a 1911), why should some people not own a 1911?




Dave

This malfunctioning 1911 issue has been brought up in the past I remember. Gee I must be real lucky, as every 1911 I've ever owned has worked without one problem. Maybe I should buy a lottery ticket. I own Kimber, Colt, and Sig currently, and have owned more Colts, and Springfields of various lengths in the past. Of course I do maintenance, and cleaning every time I fire them. Come to think of it, I've never had a problem with any handgun I've ever had, except for a Taurus revolver from several years ago.

So did his parents

So - you had it running good with the good mags it came with, which are designed to feed ball and HP......and you switched to mags that are designed to feed wadcutters (inspired by the competition crowd) to prove you could get it to run. Got it.

BTW - my Colt spec and Ruger mags all feed ball, HP, and SWC in both my Ruger and in the RIA that preceded it (in my mind).

Owning one is one thing. But blaming malfunctions on the design as a whole without having acquired knowledge of what is required to make it work is another. If someone wants to own a 1911 and never bother to figure out if it runs right or why, that's their business. But those people would be better off learning something, instead of spouting off about their personal problems and ignoring the real assistance.

There's your problem. You're relying on luck. There are known reasons for every kind of 1911 malfunction. And known cures, when needed. You can apply your brain to solve the problem (or quit causing it), or you can walk away from it, or.....keep whining.

FreeMe how many rounds a year do shoot your 1911's?

I don't see how buying $700-$1200 pistols is relying on luck.

I want to know the qualifications required to own a 1911 and nobody will help.




Clark

21 years of age with no felony or misdemeanor domestic violence convictions...all I got.

Flave, you weren't asking me about why some people shouldn't own a 1911 and it jogged my memory.

A few years ago I was in a level 4 security class, a small class. Most every one had some experience, a retired ranger (Colonel) a Sgt Major, and so on.

One student had shot an M9 in the Navy.. He was going to use the instructors 1911 because he had ammo for it. That dude didn't have a clue about much so the instructor worked with a little on its basics. After awhile the instructor said F it and made him use a 9 mm XD. The 1911 was, I guess to complicated for him i.e. engaging the safety and so on and so forth.

I understand if had a lot more time and training he might of mastered it, but not that day.

I've never, ever understood the problem people have with the safety on a 1911. I switch between a 1911 and striker guns regularly and have never missed the safety or "forgotten" to use it. Disengaging the safety should be a natural part of the presentation.

Was his call sign "Mongo?"




Ace

Are you convinced you should own one?



Dave

did you not read my last post. I recall you saying Browning hi power's were a POS ( or something to that effect). So wouldn't you think such disdain of a weapon would make you not a great candidate to own that weapon?

DINK goes into his new ownership of a 1911 with zero faith in that weapon. I'd say that makes him a bad candidate for a 1911 owner.