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As an owner of a few 300 Savage rifles I have couple of questions about reloading the Nosler 170 gr. Partition and Speer 170 FN for deer hunting. I am a long time reloader but with little experience taking game. I hunt mostly to be in the woods but am thinking of taking game with one of the old classic rifles. The rifles I have are Savage 99’s and Remington Model 81’s. Knowing the limitations of COL., I was thinking the Nosler 170 PT RN (30-30) or the Speer 170 gr. FN SP (30-30), may be ideal bullets for Michigan deer hunting. As shots will be 50 – 150 yds. My question is what can I expect for terminal performance at the higher velocity of the 300 Savage? Would these bullets be good for black bear, hogs etc.?
Thank you to everyone for your responses.
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Terminal performance for them will be excellent, equal or better than the same bullets out of a 30-30. That being said.. it shouldn't be any better than using a 150gr or 165gr Nosler Partition spire point.
Haven't ever shot black bear or hogs, but I can't see a reason it wouldn't be good. You're only looking at something like 2500fps, not enough to bother the bullets.
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Thanks Calhoun for your reply.
I had a feeling what you said was true, just looking for real world experience. I have developed successful loads using 165 gr. bullets and like these.
The reason I'm looking at these 2 bullets is because they are .100"+ shorter than the standard 165 spire pt version. I'm thinking I may be able to get a little more velocity using the shorter versions. I enjoy experimenting.
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When I lived in New Hampshire, I shot a few New England whitetails with 170 grain Remington RNCL 30-30 bullets from a Remington 760 and a Savage 99EG. They worked great, through & through penetration, wrecked lungs, and a short, but wide, blood trail.
Although I have never shot either a bear or a hog with this cartridge/bullet combination, I think that, based on their performance on whitetails, they would work just fine.
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I have had outstanding results for accuracy and dead deer (many dead deer) with the Sierra 150 grain flat base spitzer Pro Hunter. I am getting 1" groups at 100 yards and great penetration and downed deer or short runs at being hit.
I don't see the need for premium bullets with the 300 Savage and its velocity and range limitation. I have killed deer any where from 100 od 200 yards with that round out of a 1955 99F model. I took a beautiful 9 point buck two years ago at 80 yards with a frontal chest shot, the bullet when completely through the deer and broke the rear leg femur on the opposite side and the deer droped in its tracks. Don't let any one tell you need premium bullets for that round at typical deer distance. The 300 Savage has been harvesting game for 96 years.
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I have had outstanding results for accuracy and dead deer (many dead deer) with the Sierra 150 grain flat base spitzer Pro Hunter. I am getting 1" groups at 100 yards and great penetration and downed deer or short runs at being hit.
I don't see the need for premium bullets with the 300 Savage and its velocity and range limitation. I have killed deer any where from 100 od 200 yards with that round out of a 1955 99F model. I took a beautiful 9 point buck two years ago at 80 yards with a frontal chest shot, the bullet when completely through the deer and broke the rear leg femur on the opposite side and the deer droped in its tracks. Don't let any one tell you need premium bullets for that round at typical deer distance. The 300 Savage has been harvesting game for 96 years. Hard to beat the good ole Sierra Game King bullets for accuracy, price, and performance on game animals. It seems to me any velocity gain you'd get from more powder space due to a shorter bullet would be negated in a short distance by the inferior ballistic coefficient provided by a flat point projectile.
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Thanks everyone for your comments. I will use your advice and not overthink this.
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I have had outstanding results for accuracy and dead deer (many dead deer) with the Sierra 150 grain flat base spitzer Pro Hunter. I am getting 1" groups at 100 yards and great penetration and downed deer or short runs at being hit.
I don't see the need for premium bullets with the 300 Savage and its velocity and range limitation. I have killed deer any where from 100 od 200 yards with that round out of a 1955 99F model. I took a beautiful 9 point buck two years ago at 80 yards with a frontal chest shot, the bullet when completely through the deer and broke the rear leg femur on the opposite side and the deer droped in its tracks. Don't let any one tell you need premium bullets for that round at typical deer distance. The 300 Savage has been harvesting game for 96 years. Hard to beat the good ole Sierra Game King bullets for accuracy, price, and performance on game animals. It seems to me any velocity gain you'd get from more powder space due to a shorter bullet would be negated in a short distance by the inferior ballistic coefficient provided by a flat point projectile. Interesting. Unlike you, I'm not fond of Sierra bullet for shooting anything but paper and varmints. I think that they are, in general, more fragile than the comparable cup and core component bullets from Nosler, Hornady, and Speer. But, as with many things, YMMV.
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I have had outstanding results for accuracy and dead deer (many dead deer) with the Sierra 150 grain flat base spitzer Pro Hunter. I am getting 1" groups at 100 yards and great penetration and downed deer or short runs at being hit.
I don't see the need for premium bullets with the 300 Savage and its velocity and range limitation. I have killed deer any where from 100 od 200 yards with that round out of a 1955 99F model. I took a beautiful 9 point buck two years ago at 80 yards with a frontal chest shot, the bullet when completely through the deer and broke the rear leg femur on the opposite side and the deer droped in its tracks. Don't let any one tell you need premium bullets for that round at typical deer distance. The 300 Savage has been harvesting game for 96 years. Hard to beat the good ole Sierra Game King bullets for accuracy, price, and performance on game animals. It seems to me any velocity gain you'd get from more powder space due to a shorter bullet would be negated in a short distance by the inferior ballistic coefficient provided by a flat point projectile. Interesting. Unlike you, I'm not fond of Sierra bullet for shooting anything but paper and varmints. I think that they are, in general, more fragile than the comparable cup and core component bullets from Nosler, Hornady, and Speer. But, as with many things, YMMV. I only hunt whitetail deer, and my experience with them has bee 100% positive for many years with many deer. Remington Coreloct bullets are great performers as well, with the factory 150 grain 300 Savage loads being as accurate as any handload I can come up with.
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Shot a nice 6pt broadside in 1981 at 45yds with a Sierra 150 with a 308 loaded down to 300Sav velocity(2650fps).Left a football size exit.Been using Hornady 150 Interlocks the last 35yrs in 300Sav,308,30-06.Excellent on Whitetail's.
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Count me as another satisfied user of the Hornday 150 gr Interlock. I've been loading it in the 300 Sav. for nearly 40 years. It works just fine in the 30-06 too.
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Shot a nice 6pt broadside in 1981 at 45yds with a Sierra 150 with a 308 loaded down to 300Sav velocity(2650fps).Left a football size exit.Been using Hornady 150 Interlocks the last 35yrs in 300Sav,308,30-06.Excellent on Whitetail's. You got the deer didn't you? 
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Well,when he hit the 50yd line I threw the football,he caught it, and scored the touchdown!
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Claymores. I'm switching to claymore mines this year. The heck with CoreLocts, TSX's, GameKings, and other little projectiles. They are so yesterday. If the claymores don't cut it, my secret weapon is an atlatl- with a 4-12x Leupold and bipod.
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I keep repeating this but i'll do it again
Get hold of the 150 hornady SST #30303 the bullet is designed for the 300 sav, if you use the crimp line it will still feed perfectly through your magazine and its a great bullet, many sambar deer down to this.
Have just had a take off rem classic barrel fitted to a 700 action, fired my firt rounds through it yesterday, stump was a back stop and killed that old stumo stone dead
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If the Remington .30 170 gr core-lokt 30-30 bullets were still available as a reloading component I be loading them in my Savage 99. The Speer 30-30 170 gr flat nose would be my other choice.
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Yup - a big second on the Speer 170 motion!! If I ever hunt with a .303 again it will be loaded with that bullet.
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