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Hi Folks:

I want to thank John Barsness for his latest exclusive article for the Campfire, SHORT AND LONG ACTIONS, which you can find on the homepage.

As usual, it is my pleasure, and I am proud that he is around.

Thanks John!

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Excellent article John.


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Very nice article.


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Great article. Common sense at work.

For years I built 300 Win Mags, 7 Rem Mags,300 Weatherby's and (most recently) a 7mm Mashburn Super on "long" actions with H&H length boxes to accommodate better and more versatile bullet seating with long high BC bullets.....even before the current trend of high BC bullets.

Things just fit better when they have some leg room.

The short action business never made much sense to me. After a bunch of standard and WSM rifles, I am not enchanted with them.

John is , as usual, correct on bolt manipulation as well.




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enjoyable read--thanks

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Yep, nice read.


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Thanks, guys!


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Great read and very informative. Thank you for sharing the article.

Was Sako one of the first companies that made a true short action for sporting arms? I thought I read someplace that Browning was using their short action before they they made their own.


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Looks like Winchester was ahead of the curve with a 9 pound long action 22 Hornet.


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I always like reading John's stuff. Thanks Rick and John. BTW when I had my .257R built, I used a "short" Winchester action which allows me to seat bullets to 3"or so. I don't like "stuffing" cartridges in short actions either.

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Sakoluvr,

Sako started making the L42 action during WWII, for a small 7mm hunting cartridge based on the 9mm Parabellum, which after the war became the L46 and, eventually, L461 actions. But those were for really small rounds like the .222 Remington.

Sako's early rifles chambered for big game cartridges were built on FN Mauser actions in the 1950's. Eventually they started making their own short action for cartridges like the .243 and .308, but it was a number of years after Remington introduced the 722.


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Good deal. Thanks again John.


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From one John to another, it was a great article. However, I've solved my long action / short action dilemma. 1885 high, or low wall, Ruger No.1 and yes even an Encore, or two.


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So is a Model 700 30-06 considered a short action then for McMillan Stock purposes?



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John Boy,

Yeah, single-shots solve a lot of magazine-length problems--the reason I have a Ruger No. 1 .22 Hornet and Merkel K1 .308 Winchester, among others....


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A Merkel is on the list. While Mausers are a favorite, there's nothing quite like a single shot, be it a. 22 rimfire, or something chambered in an old British round.


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What do you think the percentage is of game that's killed well within the confines of the benefits of higher BC bullets?

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That would depend at least partly on exactly what you're trying to ask. Do you mean at ranges shorter than higher BC bullets have an advantage, or where higher BC have an advantage? "Within the confines" could mean either.

In either case, it would depend on the game, terrain, typical conditions, capabilities of the shooter, etc.


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At ranges before a BC advantage. I've seen it written that most game is taken within 200 yards. I don't know if that's a regional thing or nation wide.

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I would say it's a world-wide thing. My big game hunting notes from the past 40 years are from more than a dozen countries, and include not just the animals I've taken but those of companions. A few years ago I broke down the ranges where animals had been taken, and right around 90% were at 200 yards or less. I need to include the last few years sometime, but doubt that figure would change significantly.


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