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what would be a good load for a 30-06 with a 200gr bullet.
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60 grains of H-4831 or 54.5 grains of IMR-4350.
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I need to try me some H4831. Although IMR 4350 works great I mine. Just don't get the velocities of some of the other powders.. I think gunner uses RL22 in his to get some pretty decent speeds too....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I need to try me some H4831. Although IMR 4350 works great I mine. Just don't get the velocities of some of the other powders.. I think gunner uses RL22 in his to get some pretty decent speeds too.... You bet buddy, my rifle settled in nicely just North of 60 grains for 2700 fps with the 200 gr NPT's, that is a badass load in the old '06! 
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I bought some RL22 the other day, just for such a load.... . Although, the buck and bull wouldn't have noticed a difference or have been any more dead....  . The funny thing is I went in to buy some RL26, but went home with RL22 instead.... 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Rl-17 will give very good velocities , in the 2700 ft/s range.
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I bought some RL22 the other day, just for such a load.... . Although, the buck and bull wouldn't have noticed a difference or have been any more dead.... . The funny thing is I went in to buy some RL26, but went home with RL22 instead.... Uh, no, I don't believe any animal is gonna be lying there wondering if that bullet was traveling 26 or 2700 fps, nope, don't believe they'll be giving a chit! 
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Rl-17 will give very good velocities , in the 2700 ft/s range. Exactly, helped a friend work up a load for his '06 using RL-17 and the long 200 gr Accubond, IIRC, he's at 2700 fps too. 
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I bought some RL22 the other day, just for such a load.... . Although, the buck and bull wouldn't have noticed a difference or have been any more dead.... . The funny thing is I went in to buy some RL26, but went home with RL22 instead.... Uh, no, I don't believe any animal is gonna be lying there wondering if that bullet was traveling 26 or 2700 fps, nope, don't believe they'll be giving a chit! Rolling... I'm still pretty damned impressed with the 200gr. partition. There was no stopping that bad boy.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Dat sombeach has a built in Vendetta!
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My standard load with the 200 partition has been 59 gr of Norma MRP for the past 30 years. It runs a solid 2700 fps in my rifles.
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Hmmmm. Good thread just ordered some 200 Part for my WSM. Didn't occur to me to run them in my 06 - didn't think they'd make that much velocity.
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Check out max loads in Reload Manuals for 4831 SC, and then check out the SAAMI pressure for the 06, and look at what the manuals state their loads yield for pressure... their max loads are way below SAAMI specs....
as stated by one of Nosler's Ballistics Techs... you can't get enough 4831SC into an 06 case to exceed SAAMI specs...
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I wonder what RL 26 will do with 200s in the aught-six?
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I wonder what RL 26 will do with 200s in the aught-six? I hear it will put a smile on your face...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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and one could ask the question, with a load like this that would do in just about everything in north america, what need is there for all the other calibers?
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... my rifle settled in nicely just North of 60 grains for 2700 fps with the 200 gr NPT's, that is a badass load in the old '06! gunner500 and others- Twenty months ago I worked up a load for my M1885 with the 27" barrel of the 200 NPT with RL22. 58 grains produced 2725 fps and also primer leaks. 57 grains gave about 2680 fps, so I considered that max. Temps at testing were 35°F. Since the ammo and rifle were heading for Namibia, I thought maybe 57 grains was not all that conservative, and might be well above 2700 fps with temperatures of 95°F. The Problem: I was using Norma brass and Winchester WLR primers. Last year I found my lot of primers was one of the ones to be recalled, so I'm thinking of redoing the test with either replacement WLRs or something else. The primer leaks with WLRs may have been a false-positive for pressure problems. QUESTION: What primers and what make(s) of brass are you using for your loads using RL22 and 200 NPTs? Thanks. --Bob
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and one could ask the question, with a load like this that would do in just about everything in north america, what need is there for all the other calibers? That's exactly what I'm saying. Also another reason I used my ol 06 and not the 338 win mag this year for elk.... The 200gr. partition is just a sledge hammer. When guys like 458Win (Phil Shoemaker) tell us that's their favorite bullet for the 06 on big brown bears, it kind of makes you listen to what they are saying...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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... my rifle settled in nicely just North of 60 grains for 2700 fps with the 200 gr NPT's, that is a badass load in the old '06! gunner500 and others- Twenty months ago I worked up a load for my M1885 with the 27" barrel of the 200 NPT with RL22. 58 grains produced 2725 fps and also primer leaks. 57 grains gave about 2680 fps, so I considered that max. Temps at testing were 35°F. Since the ammo and rifle were heading for Namibia, I thought maybe 57 grains was not all that conservative, and might be well above 2700 fps with temperatures of 95°F. The Problem: I was using Norma brass and Winchester WLR primers. Last year I found my lot of primers was one of the ones to be recalled, so I'm thinking of redoing the test with either replacement WLRs or something else. The primer leaks with WLRs may have been a false-positive for pressure problems. QUESTION: What primers and what make(s) of brass are you using for your loads using RL22 and 200 NPTs? Thanks. --Bob I'd toss the WLR's and switch to some CCI's (200's), I believe Gunner uses magnum primers (CCI250's) with his RL22 load. The brand of brass you use is mainly personal preference and very subjective. I like R-P, while most others here like WW. I also use Norma in my 06, for those special occasions...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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My standard load with the 200 partition has been 59 gr of Norma MRP for the past 30 years. It runs a solid 2700 fps in my rifles. MRP & RL-22, while not the same powder as some think, perform virtually the same & with generally the exact same charge weights............I've used both interchangeably in several different cartridges for a very long time ranging for the 25-06 to 338 Win. Both are hard to beat........some of the new versions of the RL series are reported to be a bit better but I haven't used them yet. MM
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