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Usually surface rust like that is due to contaminated blasting media. Surface particles of non-stainless metal are blasted into the surface and then rust.

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Excellent info Alaska L, I am surprised as many would have you believe that a Tikka rifle will rust if even if a damp cloth gets within 10 feet of it.....lol....Hb

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I've always had great luck using Eezox on all my rifles. I've heard CorrosionX works well too.

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Originally Posted by SKane
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To heck with the rifle, how was the deer hunt? blush

Oh, and another vote for Dyna-Tek Gun Shield.


You can even apply the stuff to Cerakote, and it'll result in a harder and more durable finish.

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EZOX works good

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What happened to all the Kimber owners saying the reason for all the complaints with Montana inaccuracy... is because "light rifles are hard to shoot".....?

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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
What happened to all the Kimber owners saying the reason for all the complaints with Montana inaccuracy... is because "light rifles are hard to shoot".....?


Mine got a lot "easier to shoot" when I properly bedded it.LOL

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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
What happened to all the Kimber owners saying the reason for all the complaints with Montana inaccuracy... is because "light rifles are hard to shoot".....?
Yeah I read that a few times on this site and found it ludicrous....It makes you wonder if these guys have any idea about the subject they are commenting on, i guess you can expect such off the wall craziness when so many put in their 2 cents on a particular subject, its also very entertaining to read.....lol.........Hb

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While I'm sure Kimber put out some dogs, I don't own one. And my Montana is definitely more difficult to shoot for every person I've put behind it.

Myself excluded.

And no I don't do any "special holds" when I shoot it.

I seriously want a Fieldcraft.




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My 18" threaded 6.5 Creedmoor arrived today. I'll post a range report in a week or so after mounting a leupold VX3i 2.5-8x32. I'll be using factory Precision Hunter 143gr ELD-X.

Playing the NFA wait game on a Thunderbeast Ultra 7..

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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
What happened to all the Kimber owners saying the reason for all the complaints with Montana inaccuracy... is because "light rifles are hard to shoot".....?


I get what you're saying..... Of course, heavier are easier to shoot (all other parameters being the same). I do think the grip design of the Fieldcraft/NULA stock allows for a trigger pull that seems to effect the hold less than the more open grip of the Kimber. Also think the butt/cheeckpiece design of the FC allows for more contact and a more natural hold resulting in a steadier hold than the Kimber. But...this is just for me, stock fit and grip are personal. Long way of saying the FC is easier for me to shoot than the Montana...and I'm a fan of the Montana.

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I'm looking for an 18" 6.5. Who has the best pricing on these currently?
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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
What happened to all the Kimber owners saying the reason for all the complaints with Montana inaccuracy... is because "light rifles are hard to shoot".....?


I get what you're saying..... Of course, heavier are easier to shoot (all other parameters being the same). I do think the grip design of the Fieldcraft/NULA stock allows for a trigger pull that seems to effect the hold less than the more open grip of the Kimber. Also think the butt/cheeckpiece design of the FC allows for more contact and a more natural hold resulting in a steadier hold than the Kimber. But...this is just for me, stock fit and grip are personal. Long way of saying the FC is easier for me to shoot than the Montana...and I'm a fan of the Montana.



None of that really effects anything off of a bench. The problem isn't "light" rifles, the problem is crappy built guns. The reality is that Kimber has no quality control and assembles junk rifles.... with excellent components. And I like Montanas. I just find it funny that thread after thread is about Kimbers that don't shoot and everyone runs around saying it's because "light rifles are hard to shoot", yet no one has a problem getting the Barret to shoot. Quite the opposite, actually.

Probably close to a year ago in one of the hundreds of threads about Kimber issues, I posted that no one would have problems getting the Barret to shoot because they'll be assembled correctly.

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I'm looking for an 18" 6.5. Who has the best pricing on these currently?
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Check with Whittaker guns - great guys to deal with and smoking prices.

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Originally Posted by Formidilosus

Probably close to a year ago in one of the hundreds of threads about Kimber issues, I posted that no one would have problems getting the Barret to shoot because they'll be assembled correctly.


... and you were not wrong.

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Originally Posted by Formidilosus

Probably close to a year ago in one of the hundreds of threads about Kimber issues, I posted that no one would have problems getting the Barret to shoot because they'll be assembled correctly.


... and you were not wrong.


Not yet anyway.



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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
Originally Posted by Formidilosus
What happened to all the Kimber owners saying the reason for all the complaints with Montana inaccuracy... is because "light rifles are hard to shoot".....?


I get what you're saying..... Of course, heavier are easier to shoot (all other parameters being the same). I do think the grip design of the Fieldcraft/NULA stock allows for a trigger pull that seems to effect the hold less than the more open grip of the Kimber. Also think the butt/cheeckpiece design of the FC allows for more contact and a more natural hold resulting in a steadier hold than the Kimber. But...this is just for me, stock fit and grip are personal. Long way of saying the FC is easier for me to shoot than the Montana...and I'm a fan of the Montana.



None of that really effects anything off of a bench. The problem isn't "light" rifles, the problem is crappy built guns. The reality is that Kimber has no quality control and assembles junk rifles.... with excellent components. And I like Montanas. I just find it funny that thread after thread is about Kimbers that don't shoot and everyone runs around saying it's because "light rifles are hard to shoot", yet no one has a problem getting the Barret to shoot. Quite the opposite, actually.

Probably close to a year ago in one of the hundreds of threads about Kimber issues, I posted that no one would have problems getting the Barret to shoot because they'll be assembled correctly.


Give me a little time, I bet I can make one of them shoot poorly. wink

I'm with you on the assembly and build. Disagree on the statement "None of that really effects anything off a bench". For my built and technique, the FC (and NULA) is easier to hold steady both off hand and from the bench. I can see it dry firing...it's for sure gong to show up when shooting.

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I'm looking for a 21" 6.5CM, who has the best prices? Whittaker's are currently out of that configuration BTW.

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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
What happened to all the Kimber owners saying the reason for all the complaints with Montana inaccuracy... is because "light rifles are hard to shoot".....?


I get what you're saying..... Of course, heavier are easier to shoot (all other parameters being the same). I do think the grip design of the Fieldcraft/NULA stock allows for a trigger pull that seems to effect the hold less than the more open grip of the Kimber. Also think the butt/cheeckpiece design of the FC allows for more contact and a more natural hold resulting in a steadier hold than the Kimber. But...this is just for me, stock fit and grip are personal. Long way of saying the FC is easier for me to shoot than the Montana...and I'm a fan of the Montana.



None of that really effects anything off of a bench. The problem isn't "light" rifles, the problem is crappy built guns. The reality is that Kimber has no quality control and assembles junk rifles.... with excellent components. And I like Montanas. I just find it funny that thread after thread is about Kimbers that don't shoot and everyone runs around saying it's because "light rifles are hard to shoot", yet no one has a problem getting the Barret to shoot. Quite the opposite, actually.

Probably close to a year ago in one of the hundreds of threads about Kimber issues, I posted that no one would have problems getting the Barret to shoot because they'll be assembled correctly.


Give me a little time, I bet I can make one of them shoot poorly. wink

I'm with you on the assembly and build. Disagree on the statement "None of that really effects anything off a bench". For my built and technique, the FC (and NULA) is easier to hold steady both off hand and from the bench. I can see it dry firing...it's for sure gong to show up when shooting.



I feel the same way about the Nula stock. My favorite hunting stock.

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