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Originally Posted by rosco1
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Two big things set it apart from the 260 Rem, and some other 6.5's

- A case designed to work well with long bullets in the confines of a short action magazine.

- Standardized with a 1/8 twist right out of the gate, so it can actually use the high BC bullets.


You can even post pictures with said bullets next to the magazine box, and most of these guys will still be stumped.

Its marketing hype!


Marketing maybe but not really hype. Hype would infer that the Creedmoor is somehow inferior. Which it is not. It is a very solid cartridge in all respects.


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Originally Posted by rosco1
It was sarcasm

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I think the 6.5CM is the best cartridge to come along in my adult life.

Just the right mix of everything. Sometimes more is less and the CM doesn't suffer that.



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It is so practical. The only reason to go .260 over the Creedmoor is if building on a long action, so the long, skinny bullets can be seated out where they belong. For me the CM came late, but I will have one soon, even if some of my other rifles gather dust in the safe.

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Not one box of factory loaded 260 worth a schit the last time I checked.

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Originally Posted by Elkhunter49
Is the 6.5 CM a magic round that will outshoot every other round ever invented... Nope. The 6.5 is a VERY accurate round even with factory loads if the rifle is set up properly. Get ya some

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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Two big things set it apart from the 260 Rem, and some other 6.5's

- A case designed to work well with long bullets in the confines of a short action magazine.

- Standardized with a 1/8 twist right out of the gate, so it can actually use the high BC bullets.


^^^^^ This ^^^^^

PLUS the factory ammo is excellent, MOA capable, and there are both hunting and target loads available.

PLUS there are at least 2 sub-$400 rifle available in 6.5 Creedmoor, the Howa 1500 and RAR-P, and, except for some Savages, there weren't any other sub-$400s chambered in 260, at least not that I recall.

Remington's launch of the 260 was done so poorly, from a professional marketing/sales perspective, I have long wondered if someone in the Remington decision making hierarchy didn't make all the bad choices associated with the new product launch on purpose. It would seem to me that they would have gotten more things about that launch right than wrong just by random chance if someone hadn't been trying to kill the 260.

The 260 was initially chambered in the 18.5" and 20" Seven and 24" 700 BDL/DM/SS, but has NEVER been cataloged in either the 700 ADL or BDL.

The 260 was later chambered in the 700 CDL-SF, 700 LSS-MR, 700 MR, and 700 VL, but only in the 700 LSS-MR for an extended period.

Initially, Remington factory ammunition was limited to a relatively slow 140 grain load and Remington never offered a 100 or 120 grain load in their standard grade ammo. They did offer 120 grain BT and 125 grain Partition loads in their more expensive lines of ammo, but only the 140 grain load in their standard line.

Remington rifle chambered in 260 initial had a ROT of 1-9", not quite quick enought for some 140 grain and heavier bullets.

LOTS of issues that the 260 encountered out of the gate were never an issue for the 6.5 Creedmoor.

I have several of each, but if I just starting down the 6.5mm road, I'd pick the 6.5 Creedmoor and never look back.

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Originally Posted by LeonHitchcox
It is so practical. The only reason to go .260 over the Creedmoor is if building on a long action, so the long, skinny bullets can be seated out where they belong. For me the CM came late, but I will have one soon, even if some of my other rifles gather dust in the safe.


Not necessarily. some of us have no interest in in squeezing a 140 gr vld into the mag.

And it matters not one iota to me what factory loads are available. I have not purchased a factory round since 1982.

The new 24 inch 8" twist barrel on my SA Ruger is chambered in 260. It will get a steady diet of 123's in Lapua brass.


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Good performance, little recoil. 100 lb granddaughter shoots full power loads with no Problem

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So why hasn't someone introduced a .308 Creedmore to replace the .308 Winchester?


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I really makes you wonder how people shot anything at all before Creedmoor, McSwirly, AR platforms, short magnums and fast twist. I am not going to buy a new gun until they reach the pinnacle of performance. At the rate these huge improvements keep coming, I will have to wait awhile and see what happens.


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
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It is so practical. The only reason to go .260 over the Creedmoor is if building on a long action, so the long, skinny bullets can be seated out where they belong. For me the CM came late, but I will have one soon, even if some of my other rifles gather dust in the safe.


Not necessarily. some of us have no interest in in squeezing a 140 gr vld into the mag.

And it matters not one iota to me what factory loads are available. I have not purchased a factory round since 1982.

The new 24 inch 8" twist barrel on my SA Ruger is chambered in 260. It will get a steady diet of 123's in Lapua brass.


Creedmoor shoots the light ones fine as well..why go that way I don't know but it CAN do...I've always seen it as a matter of if I already own a 260 there'd be no reason to scrap it but starting from neither why not go Creedmoor.


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Originally Posted by IndyCA35
So why hasn't someone introduced a .308 Creedmore to replace the .308 Winchester?


They (Hornady) did that first; 30TC....and no, it didnt replace the 308 evidently!

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My 6.5 Creedmoor has shot several 5 shot groups under .3 MOA in the first 100 rounds at 100 yards with the only hand load I've tried in it. At 300 yards, all three shot groups have been under 0.5 MOA with said load. I have never seen another caliber do this so easily.

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I would like a 6.5, 6, and 22 Creed in Kimber Montana please.

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I'm thinking it's a perfect storm of slippery bullets, moderate recoil, long barrel life, laser rangefinders, dial-able scopes, affordable platforms and factory support.

Remember when,
you needed a magnum cartridge to hit reliably beyond 400 yards?
you had to guess how far that deer was?
plain crosshairs in your scope were as good as it gets?
a new cartridge might be gone in a year or two so don't try anything new?
anything under 3000fps was a ladies rifle?
factory ammo wan't all that accurate?

I haven't given up on my other cartridges, they"re better too with some of the same advancements!


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For a high volume precision shooter I can see why.


Hunting, not so much.
(no reason to run out and trade in a 243/270/etc...)







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think mag constraints OAL and bullet length and it doesn't take long to connect the dots on the creedmoor








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I've got the Creedmore pretty much surrounded by rifles for other cartridges, but if I was starting out or cutting way back, it would likely head the list. It just fits for so much of what I want a rifle to do. I seldom shoot factory, but if I needed to, the Hornady stuff is apparently excellent and resonable.

Much of the same is true of the .260, but rifles (especially twisted properly) are a bit scarce.


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