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I got 2 boxes of the new 150 grain ELD-X bullets from Santa. Anyone have experience loading these bullets in a 7mm-08? I have Big Game, Hunter, and Varget. I swapped the SA bolt stop on my Tikka Superlite for a LA stop and I reached the lands at 2.987". On the left is my main load, 140 NP at 2.808". I'd like to get close to 2750 fps. P
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I have the same bullets for my 7mm-08. I'm looking to load H414 in them somewhere from 42 to 44 grains. Re17 shows to get the best velocity comparing manuals and the Hodgon website. I'm trying to find some Re16 also. Please let me know how you fare out. I'll post my results first chance I get. Very busy here with the holidays and a son getting married New Years Eve. Take care.
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Pharm, where'd you find the bolt stop?
Been trying to find a couple for a while. None in stock anywhere. Brownells?
With Big Game, Hunter, and RL 17, 2750-2800 should be attainable relatively drama free...
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I got 2 boxes of the new 150 grain ELD-X bullets from Santa. Anyone have experience loading these bullets in a 7mm-08? I have Big Game, Hunter, and Varget. I swapped the SA bolt stop on my Tikka Superlite for a LA stop and I reached the lands at 2.987". On the left is my main load, 140 NP at 2.808". I'd like to get close to 2750 fps. P Interesting.
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Pharm, where'd you find the bolt stop?
Been trying to find a couple for a while. None in stock anywhere. Brownells?
With Big Game, Hunter, and RL 17, 2750-2800 should be attainable relatively drama free... I got the kit from Brownell's a couple of years ago on a whim. I ran some loads through a .30-06 magazine and they fed fine. P
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Horn is showing 2770 for that combo in their Precision Hunter loaded ammo. A great combo, IMO.
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I just got off the phone from Hornady. They said they developed the 150 for the 7mm-08 and the .280 Rem.
They suggested using Nosler's data for the 150 NP with Hunter, max of 49.5 grains, velocity 2869 but from a 26" tube. Adjusted down 90 fps should put me close to 2780. They really like Varget with a max of 39 grains for 2700.
It's a start.
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That bullet should work real well with the moderate velocities of the 7-08.
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Pharm, just curious (seriously), what are you trying to accomplish with this load that you haven't already accomplished with the handful of super accurate partition/,accubond, and BT loads you already have?
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Just remember, the 7-08 is now a 2nd class citizen to the new kid on the block...........the 6.5 Creedmoor. Just go to the current Campfire forum thread on the 6.5 & you'll become a believer instantly. Greatest thing since sliced bread. I tell ya. MM
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In true RL (Rifle Loony) fashion I bought another 7mm-08, this one a Tikka Superlite. I want to shoot it a loooong way. I'll keep my Partition load for the Red Death. P
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Pharm, just curious (seriously), what are you trying to accomplish with this load that you haven't already accomplished with the handful of super accurate partition/,accubond, and BT loads you already have? As Reloaders it is our duty not to be satisfied with our past accomplishments....lol. We must move forward and find even more magical combinations and keep this industry thriving. It's places like this forum that give us our badly needed inspiration!!...lol!
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Pharm, just curious (seriously), what are you trying to accomplish with this load that you haven't already accomplished with the handful of super accurate partition/,accubond, and BT loads you already have? As Reloaders it is our duty not to be satisfied with our past accomplishments....lol. We must move forward and find even more magical combinations and keep this industry thriving. It's places like this forum that give us our badly needed inspiration!!...lol! And it's fun. It keeps me off the pole. P
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And here I was thinking I was satisfied with the 120 BT and 139 GMX loads for my T3....
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Just remember, the 7-08 is now a 2nd class citizen to the new kid on the block...........the 6.5 Creedmoor. Just go to the current Campfire forum thread on the 6.5 & you'll become a believer instantly. Greatest thing since sliced bread. I tell ya. MM It is pretty interesting that the Creed will shoot a 147 gr bullet almost the same speed and has nearly a .7 BC, compared to the .574 for the 7mm 150.
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I'd think a 162 7mm would be better comp. An the eldx 162 is .670...
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Agreed. The 162 owns that space.
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I meant to say the eldm in my post above as that's what the 147 6.5 is....
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Agreed. The 162 owns that space. Yeah. In my 708s, I'll use a 120gr if velocity and "flatness" are a concern, otherwise its the 162gr. The 162gr has almost the same velocity as the 150 and beats it down range for LR shooting. The 150gr is just in no mans land when it comes to the 708.
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Except Hornady doesn't load the 162 in factory guise.
Does any other manufacturer have a 7mm08 factory load that beats the BC of the Hornady 150 ELDX?
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Except Hornady doesn't load the 162 in factory guise.
Does any other manufacturer have a 7mm08 factory load that beats the BC of the Hornady 150 ELDX? Probably not, but this is the reloading forum, so...
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I'm using the 162 in my brother's 7mm Rem Mag. I looked at the 162 for the 7mm-08 but I like the additional velocity I get with the 150.
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I'm sure the 150s will be nice, but the small amount of velocity increase over the 162s doesn't increase the down range performance. The 162s will beat it in wind drift at all ranges. Probably not enough to matter inside 400 yards though.
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A .670 BC at 2750 ain't bad. The 180 might be worth a look, too, depending on the numbers Hornady settles on.
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I got right at 2800 fps at 2.987" OAL. No pressure signs.
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Don't tease us, P.... What powder, how was the accuracy?
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Dunno yet, I just popped a few off over the chrono in the back yard.
I posted over on the rifles board, so keep an eye out there.
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Pharm, just curious (seriously), what are you trying to accomplish with this load that you haven't already accomplished with the handful of super accurate partition/,accubond, and BT loads you already have? P
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He wants to show us more pretty targets!!
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He wants to show us more pretty targets!!
I'm not a very good shot, so when the stars align I gotta show them off! P
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You've shot some pretty dang nice groups out of those 7-08's that I've seen!
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Photobucket is the devil, else I'd post the most recent targets.
Safe in my rifle only, not recommended in yours:
46.2 grains Big Game 150 ELDX WLRM R-P brass 2.183" BTO 2789 fps
Under .5 moa, I'll start shooting at distance when the fire danger permits.
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Get a Imgur.com account. That is what I did when Photoshop started screwing us. Super easy and a way better platform than Photoshop - free too!
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Photobucket is the devil, else I'd post the most recent targets.
Safe in my rifle only, not recommended in yours:
46.2 grains Big Game 150 ELDX WLRM R-P brass 2.183" BTO 2789 fps
Under .5 moa, I'll start shooting at distance when the fire danger permits.
P Be careful - you might get some hotrodder comments from the gallery - PS - I can get 2800 with that same bullet as well....
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Be careful - you might get some hotrodder comments from the gallery -
PS - I can get 2800 with that same bullet as well....
In the 7-08 I've found that Big Game is one of the "wonder powders" that actually delivers book speeds, and often with outstanding accuracy.
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Be careful - you might get some hotrodder comments from the gallery -
PS - I can get 2800 with that same bullet as well....
In the 7-08 I've found that Big Game is one of the "wonder powders" that actually delivers book speeds, and often with outstanding accuracy. There are a couple more...
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I went shooting Thursday after work. Instead of the Superlite I took my main T3 Lite stainless, also in 7mm-08. I usd the same 150 ELDX loads that shot well in the Superlite and got a .163" 4-shot group. Looks like I'm done messing around for awhile.
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Bump this back to the top. Any new information to share?
I loaded some rounds last night with RL15 and some with RL16. Hope to shoot them soon. I also have IMR 4350, 4064, Big Game and Varget on hand. Open to suggestions. Really want to stay above 2750 fps, but accuracy above all else.
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Anxious to hear your feedback for the REL 26 loads. I've got the Rel 26 and the bullets but it may be awhile before the winter up here in Northern Michigan will allow me to shoot.
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I’m using pharmseller data for my 150 loads. I do have to seat my bullets deeper than he is. I did up my charge to 46.5 gr of biggame.
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I’m using pharmseller data for my 150 loads. I do have to seat my bullets deeper than he is. I did up my charge to 46.5 gr of biggame. I think I'm going to have to try some of the Big Game as well. According to the Alliant data online, Hunter is a better powder choice at this weight, but I have Big Game...... I have been hunting with a 120 TTSX loaded with BG and it is great. 3180 fps at 1 grain under max.
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Photobucket is the devil, else I'd post the most recent targets.
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46.2 grains Big Game 150 ELDX WLRM R-P brass 2.183" BTO 2789 fps
Under .5 moa, I'll start shooting at distance when the fire danger permits.
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I like Tapatalk but the 'fire isn't available.
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I'm going to be looking for some big game powder for my new 7-08...
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I saw several pounds yesterday at Sportsmans in Salem.
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I saw several pounds yesterday at Sportsmans in Salem.
P I may go to portland tonight. I'll check the Sportsman's there, or maybe even Cabela's..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I'm going to start down this road with a new tikka ss 7mm-08. 150gr ELD X, win brass, No RL17 or Big Game in town, but I did score some Ramshot Hunter to start with and have some varget. I'm going to try to start at mag length without modifying the mag or bolt stop. The scope should be here wednesday (SS 3-15x42), so I'll strap on the snow shoes and start the testing this week.
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Big Game is available online. The three Tikkas I load for shoot bugholes with it, close to 2800 fps. I think Hunter is too slow. It's all I use in a few .30-06s.
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I’m getting 2700+ out of an 18” barreled 7/08 with 46.5 grains of H414 and a CCI250 with the 150 ELDs.
4064, 4350, and RL15..... would barely break 2600.... though I haven’t shot any RS Big Game out of it yet.
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I’m getting 2700+ out of an 18” barreled 7/08 with 46.5 grains of H414 and a CCI250 with the 150 ELDs.
4064, 4350, and RL15..... would barely break 2600.... though I haven’t shot any RS Big Game out of it yet. Good to know, I have some H414 and mag primers.
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Do you measure from the ogive or the tip of the bullet?
Do you have access to a long-action bolt stop?
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Do you measure from the ogive or the tip of the bullet?
Do you have access to a long-action bolt stop?
P As you probably know 2.8 coal is as long as I can go without modifying the bolt stop and getting a long action mag. That puts me with a .13 jump off the lands. I’d rather keep the SA if I can get it to shoot over 2700 FPS, I might get lucky and find some big game this weekend at the gun show. I’m hoping to try the hunter at 2.8 Friday. I wanted something that will reach out a bit and not be brutal at the range and lite enough to hunt. It’s getting a SS 3-15x42 and I’ve got local ranges to 1700 once the snow melts. The 150 and 162 eld x is what made this caliber interesting to me.
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My nephew's Tikka shoots the 150 ELDX with 46.2 gr Big Game at 2.156" from the ogive. Winchester Large Rifle Magnum primer. Start low and work up.
Two of my Tikkas shoot the same recipe at 2.183" from the ogive. This length requires a long action bolt stop.
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How is the expansion of your ELDX? I’ve shot some and they vaporize..
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How is the expansion of your ELDX? I’ve shot some and they vaporize.. Three deer and one bull with the 150 out of a 7mm-08, one buck, one bull, and one cow with 162 from a 7mm Rem Mag. Haven't caught one from the -08, exit on the buck, gutless on the bull from the 7 Mag, didn't recover, caught the one from the cow, about 50% retention. No complaints! Edit to add, nothing needed a second shot. My nephew hit his bull again because it was standing and that's what we do. P
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Just remember, the 7-08 is now a 2nd class citizen to the new kid on the block...........the 6.5 Creedmoor. MM Well, as Fogerty said, “the Old Man (280 Remington) is down the road”
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Pharm, have you tried the 162gr ELDX in the 7mm 08? I have a few hundred of those, and want to try them in my new rifle. I use that bullet in my 7WSM and it is extremely accurate.. im also wondering if you suggest using a magnum primer with rl15 or big gamepowder?
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Pharm, have you tried the 162gr ELDX in the 7mm 08? I have a few hundred of those, and want to try them in my new rifle. I use that bullet in my 7WSM and it is extremely accurate.. im also wondering if you suggest using a magnum primer with rl15 or big gamepowder? Were you able to find some biggame powder? I shot 162 hornady btsp out of mine they shot very well, but my concern was/is velocity. I should revisit that bullet weight in the eld-x and chrono it along with the 150gr eld-x.
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Pharm, have you tried the 162gr ELDX in the 7mm 08? I have a few hundred of those, and want to try them in my new rifle. I use that bullet in my 7WSM and it is extremely accurate.. im also wondering if you suggest using a magnum primer with rl15 or big gamepowder? Nope, 150 only. I load the 162 in a couple 7 Rem Mags. And yes to the Magnum primer with Big Game. I like the additional velocity I get with the 150 over the 162. So far so good. P
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Pharm, have you tried the 162gr ELDX in the 7mm 08? I have a few hundred of those, and want to try them in my new rifle. I use that bullet in my 7WSM and it is extremely accurate.. im also wondering if you suggest using a magnum primer with rl15 or big gamepowder? Nope, 150 only. I load the 162 in a couple 7 Rem Mags. And yes to the Magnum primer with Big Game. I like the additional velocity I get with the 150 over the 162. So far so good. P I’m probably taking my model 70 featherweight in 7-08 going to use 150gr eld-x for my sheep hunt in the Tok management area (TMA) I’m seating my bullets to 2.150 BTO.
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My fist stab at the 150 eld x in the 7mm08 was with hunter and standard primers. Best group was book max of 49.5 at 2.8 coal which printed a little over a inch at 2720 with a es of 4. I found some Reloder 17 I’m going to try, and maybe try a mag primer with the hunter and play with the seating depth.
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Pharm, have you tried the 162gr ELDX in the 7mm 08? I have a few hundred of those, and want to try them in my new rifle. I use that bullet in my 7WSM and it is extremely accurate.. im also wondering if you suggest using a magnum primer with rl15 or big gamepowder? Were you able to find some biggame powder? I shot 162 hornady btsp out of mine they shot very well, but my concern was/is velocity. I should revisit that bullet weight in the eld-x and chrono it along with the 150gr eld-x. Yep, I bought 2 pounds at Sportsman's the other day...
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Pharm, have you tried the 162gr ELDX in the 7mm 08? I have a few hundred of those, and want to try them in my new rifle. I use that bullet in my 7WSM and it is extremely accurate.. im also wondering if you suggest using a magnum primer with rl15 or big gamepowder? Nope, 150 only. I load the 162 in a couple 7 Rem Mags. And yes to the Magnum primer with Big Game. I like the additional velocity I get with the 150 over the 162. So far so good. P I’m probably taking my model 70 featherweight in 7-08 going to use 150gr eld-x for my sheep hunt in the Tok management area (TMA) I’m seating my bullets to 2.150 BTO. My bto is 2.183", my nephew's is 2.156". 46.2 grains Big Game, WLRM, 2795 fps. P
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New to reloading here, what would be a good replacement for Big Game? I’m loading 7mm08, Kimber Montana that shoots well, I have 150g ELDX and 140g TTSX, CCI 200 but can pick up magnum primers. I can get Hunter, but read it’s too slow? Where’s a good place to start? Or should I suck it up and pay the Hazmat fee to ship Big Game to me in Kodiak?
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Reloder 17 or if you want to step back in time...H414/W760.
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New to reloading here, what would be a good replacement for Big Game? I’m loading 7mm08, Kimber Montana that shoots well, I have 150g ELDX and 140g TTSX, CCI 200 but can pick up magnum primers. I can get Hunter, but read it’s too slow? Where’s a good place to start? Or should I suck it up and pay the Hazmat fee to ship Big Game to me in Kodiak? Don’t discount hunter or rl19. I’m playing hunter and the 150’s. Max book load was giving me 2720 out of a 22” tube. I’m going to play with mag primers and seating depth. I also have rl17 to try. Ramshot powders are scarce around here.
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Suck it up. It's more than worth it.
Heck, it's just money.
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To add: my brother took his -08 to the range Friday, shot four bullets (see above load, 2.156") into one little hole at 100 yards, sent me a pic of the target, and put the rifle away.
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Grrr, maybe I can convince my buddy to bring some up on his road trip thru Canada..
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Alrighty, anyone have the min and max loads for BG and the 150 ELDX? My powder arrives tomorrow 😎
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I get Big Game from Sportsman Warehouse, good to know people who work there.
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Alrighty, anyone have the min and max loads for BG and the 150 ELDX? My powder arrives tomorrow 😎 Should be data on Ram Shot's website...
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Alrighty, anyone have the min and max loads for BG and the 150 ELDX? My powder arrives tomorrow 😎 Should be data on Ram Shot's website... Nope. Call Hornady. Or work up to my recipe. P
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Alrighty, anyone have the min and max loads for BG and the 150 ELDX? My powder arrives tomorrow 😎 Should be data on Ram Shot's website... Nope. Call Hornady. Or work up to my recipe. P They've got three 150's with Big Game listed. Maxes from 44.5-46.2 with high bearing surface bullets. Bet you could go a bit higher with a low bearing surface ELDX while working up...
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I'm not good enough yet, I always feel better if I call.
I worked up to 46.2 gr, got a full case and the velocity I wanted so I stopped there and played with seating depth.
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Photobucket is back up. Here’s the Superlite: My main shooter, I named her Red Death. Same load, three shots. What a 5x6 looks like after an ELDX discussion at 404 yards: P
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I have 30 days off starting this weekend and hopefully I can find some similar results as yours.. that would be nice
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This is my brother's target, he's shooting a Superlite with an LA bolt stop, although he doesn't need it. His rifle found accuracy at 2.156" from the ogive, which is within 7mm-08 magazine length. Same recipe as mine, just a different OAL. Three shots, not bad. P
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Playing with my tikka this weekend, I couldn't get better than a 1.25" with RL17 and the 150 ELDX. Still have not seen any big game around. Probably order some and pay hazmat.
42gr of varget with 140 NAB were under 1/2", no need to play with this one any more. I'll chrono that one soon.
45gr of H4350 with 120's in my wife's youth axis rifle was about 5/8"", looking for ~2700 and a soft load for her. Need to chrono that one too, but it looks like winner.
So far I'm impressed with this round. I need to get out and chrono the loads, then stretch it out a bit.
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Did a little doe culling one morning with the 7-08 and 150 eld x with Big game.
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Thank you Ishoot for asking the question I’m after. My grandfather does our reloading for now. I buy what I want to use and he slaps it together. But he’s not real big on experimenting. I have a Kimber Montana 7mm-08. Using Lapua brass. CCI large rifle 200 and Big Game. Assuming we just stick with 2.800. Where would be a good place to start the load. Pharm I’ve been following your threads on this load which got me to buy all this stuff lol.
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Also, I am happy if I get 2700+ out of this load
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FYI my eldx load accounted for 2 nice antelope this year.
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FYI my eldx load accounted for 2 nice antelope this year.
P That’s awesome, pictures? Maybe I should just call Hornady about starting load. Unless ishoot already did and wants to chime in.
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There is load data in this thread. Use it, and work up to it.
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FYI my eldx load accounted for 2 nice antelope this year.
P That’s awesome, pictures? Maybe I should just call Hornady about starting load. Unless ishoot already did and wants to chime in. I need an Imgur account.
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