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Suggestions on AR smiths?
Compass Lake will do whatever you want them to do. Adco is reputed to be pretty good too........they've done work for others that I know, never for me. Adco MM
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Campfire Kahuna
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Nez is top line, but not taking work that i"m aware of?
I'd be talking to WOP, and if they refuse, you can never go wrong with CLE either.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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If you want the best in AR's I'd call Mark Chanlynn in Longmont. I'd also use his barrel. He makes single point rifle cut barrels. Really good stuff.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Never heard of him. Will have to google.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Campfire Outfitter
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Check out Wes Grant at MSTN as well. He not only built high precision guns, he was in a place to learn about hard use guns and managed to combine both. But he ain't cheap... Not knocking any High Power smith but one with experience with building suppressed guns is invaluable. http://mstn.biz/
Last edited by TWR; 02/17/17.
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Interesting link, thanks. Guy sure seems to know what he is doing there. Pricing is not all that bad for what you are getting.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Most good stuff or good work isn't cheap. But he's making about $5-600 or so for screwing an upper together based on the rough price of the parts........I just did one very close with the same or comparable components, so that seems a bit high for 45 minutes worth of work. MM
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its always going to be high when you try to use some of the best stuff, and have a platform to sell.
Its why I pick and choose the best stuff and have barrels done as needed generally, and assemble myself.
Thats the only way I get what I want, without having someone else sell me their ideas at a higher rate.
All in all though, for going price of customs its not anywhere out of range if you can't or won't put the parts together yourself.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Most good stuff or good work isn't cheap. But he's making about $5-600 or so for screwing an upper together based on the rough price of the parts........I just did one very close with the same or comparable components, so that seems a bit high for 45 minutes worth of work. MM Yes he's making money but he's also put in some time with John Noveske back when he was alive and worked out some issues with gas port sizes, suppressors, intermediate gas system and a 3 groove barrel that Noveske doesn't produce for anyone but him. And he probably does a thing or two that most of us don't. Like fitting the bolt at 1.4646" +0.001"/- 0.000". Just another option.
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And a good option too..........there's no doubt from his website that he is top shelf.
As for his dimensioning on the bolt HS, for anything but a precision type gun, being only .001' over min, isn't where I'd want a tactical or highly used, all conditions rifle that's going to get dirty, to be. I think I'd rather another .001".
If the gun is kept reasonably clean & only shoots new ammo or new brass which is normally about .003-.004" below min, or carefully sized reloads, it will be fine though.
MM
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yep,the call on that headsizing TOTALLY depends on what ammo you are shooting....
Really always has and always will in a way.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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